The statutes

I don’t want to spend so much time here because I know most of you know about the commandments given to Moses. You know the first 4 talk about loving god and not making idols in his likeness. For this the punishment is  …You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing loving kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Why didn’t he think about making laws against pedophiles, slavery, against logical fallacies, against taking things on faith when there is no supporting evidence, against racism, tribalism, corruption and so many other social ills? As an omniscient being, I don’t think it is asking too much to ask why he didn’t mention any of these 🙂

This commandments were not meant for everyone, he is addressing the sons of Israel only. I have always meant to ask, if god created everyone, why does he show preference to one particular family? Who should the rest of the people worship? When he says you should not kill, it must be taken in the context that you should not kill an Israelite, but there is nothing wrong with killing a Canaanite  heck you can kill anyone!

God gets tired, I think those of you praying on Sundays don’t get answers since it his day of rest. But how do you know which was his 7th day?

Why did he .. 20 Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid; for God has come in order to test you, and in order that the fear of Him may remain with you, so that you may not sin.”? Don’t you think the outcome would have been obvious to him/it?

What is this pettiness on how to make an altar and an obsession with barbecue?

 

 

 

Meaning of words

I’ve become increasingly frustrated with people’s insistence that words can mean whatever they want them to mean, and whatever is convenient for them to mean. Words are meant for one thing: communication. Once everyone personalizes words and definitions, we lose that ability. If “to you” a chair is what the rest of us consider a table, you’re going to lose us when you start telling about setting the chair for dinner.

Even more frustrating is when people, or Bibles, make absolute claims about their deity. If you tell me your god is perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent, all-knowing, all-powerful, merciful, and all-loving, I fully expect him to live up to the literal implications of those words… and because you tell me they are absolutely true.

If “God” is omnipresent, he is everywhere. Yes, everywhere. You cannot rationalize away the horror of Hell by claiming it’s merely the place where “God’s” present has vacated the premises. Yes, it’s hard to imagine than a merciful and all-loving god would create a place like Hell, so instead of facing the reality that he may not be those things, a new definition of omnipresent is constructed. Somehow “omnipresent” can actually exclude one very special place in the cosmos: Hell. God is everywhere… except there. But that’s not really omnipresent, is it? Apparently, to some, it is… but the word has lost its meaning altogether.

If “God” is perfect, then his creation should be perfect… yes, even when given free-will. I think when we simply blurt out that everything “God” made is perfect, we forget what that implies. Humans would have perfectly understood that remaining in “God’s” grace would be the best choice; that “rebelling” would only hurt them. They would have perfectly trusted “God”, andperfectly behaved. Threats would have been unnecessary because they would have been able to perfectly think-through disobeying and the consequences. The only way our free-will would have tripped us up is if we did not have perfect understanding… and apparently, we didn’t. We hadn’t yet had a bite of the fruit of Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. So, without that essential knowledge, we were not “perfect”, and to insist we were–despite a clear lack of perfect motives, thought-processes, and critical thinking–undermines the meaning of the word.

So, we’ve established that “God” is not literally everywhere, and did not literally create a perfect universe (because, even if people were the only thing wrong, that one blemish means the whole is not perfect). What other absolutes does “God” fail to live up to?

Well, he’s not all-powerful. And do you know why? Because nothing can be all-powerful. There’s the so-called omnipotence paradox: “Could an omnipotent being create a stone so heavy that even he could not lift it?” Some Christians scoff at this paradox, but the reality is that it’s very telling. This is actually just one simple thing an allegedly all-powerful god cannot do, and that actually does invalidate the claim he can do anything he wants. He can’t. This paradox may sound silly and childish, but it’s true… and makes the idea of all-powerfulness silly and childish. And I’m sure we could think of many other paradoxes that “God” could not overcome. If even “God” cannot crawl into the definition of “all-powerful” or “omnipotent”, why use such useless words? It would serve theists much better if they just said that their god was “very powerful” or even “the most powerful”. But they don’t.

Also, an all-knowing, all-loving, and merciful god would probably forgo creating humankind altogether, rather than insist that the bloody drama on this planet play out to the bitter end. If we’re now admitting “God” is not all-powerful, but trying to make the case that he’s at leastmerciful, the fact we exist at all speaks against that idea. Sometimes, we mercifully put suffering creatures out of their misery. If we knew their existence would only be one, long, unending sequence of horror (even with a couple good days), we might just decide not to bring them into existence at all. Even if you make the argument that there’s Heaven after death to look forward to, we all know not everyone makes it in (and so, we’re not really all loved, either). A god who knows our fate, but chooses to let us suffer through it, is not merciful or loving in any meaningful or remotely literal way. A merciful, loving god could not possibly know what might happen were he to create us.

Just about every absolute claim made about “God”, absolutely fails. Why bother speaking in absolutes if there are so many damn exceptions, rationalizations, and excuses? The fact that there are so many apologist apologizing for the failings and failure of their god to clearly communicate, speaks volumes.

Words have specific meaning so they can convey specific ideas. If your god does not live up to the literal definition of his supposed characteristics, stop singing his praises. You’ve been conned.

My worldview does not suffer from glaring inconsistencies or contradictions. I do not need apologists to explain away flaws in my logic. If someone points out a real problem, I can alter my opinion to reflect reality rather than concocting elaborate dance routines to remain at my preformed conclusion. It’s not about insisting I’m right, but actually finding the truth. Sure, sometimes it’s elusive, but I want truth… and I need words to have meaning. Communication is important. If what you mean by “perfect” is not what I mean by “perfect”, we’ve failed.

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Visitation from on high

If the people were so close to the mountain of god, why did he still have to send Moses? Would it not have been much better and efficient to talk to everyone at once? This way he would avoid any confusion or misrepresentation unless god didn’t care about that. By the way, I think he has selective memory. I will let you see that for yourself

21 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, “Go down, warn the people, so that they do not break through to the Lord to gaze, and many of them perish. 22 Also let the priests who come near to the Lord consecrate themselves, or else the Lord will break out against them.”23 Moses said to the Lord, “The people cannot come up to Mount Sinai, for You warned us, saying, ‘Set bounds about the mountain and consecrate it.’” 24 Then the Lord said to him, “Go down and come up again, you and Aaron with you; but do not let the priests and the people break through to come up to the Lord, or He will break forth upon them.” 25 So Moses went down to the people and told them.

Women, you are not welcome here

15 He said to the people, “Be ready for the third day; do not go near a woman.”

The prescription of touching the mountain.

12 You shall set bounds for the people all around, saying, ‘Beware that you do not go up on the mountain or touch the border of it;whoever touches the mountain shall surely be put to death. 13 No hand shall touch him, but he shall surely be stoned or shot through; whether beast or man, he shall not live.’

God on top of the mountain, the sons of Israel waiting on him.

 

 

Some advice from father in law

Jethro pays his son-in-law, Moses, a visit to offer fatherly advice. He brings along Moses’ wife and two sons. The boys have very interesting names, they must have been ridiculed by their peers. How do you name your son ‘I have been a sojourner in a foreign land‘ and ‘the god of my father was my help and delivered me from the sword of pharaoh‘. While we are still here, is the father in law also son of Israel?

Moses narrates to the father in law the destruction and plunder they have done in Egypt and the two of them come to the conclusion their god is more powerful than other gods. This means, they were aware there were other gods and also they and their god were lacking in compassion and morals. How do you celebrate killing and plunder?

Father in law wants to have the burden on his son reduced, he fears he [Moses] will burn out if he continues to work the way he has been doing. What passes me is how does father in law know he is over burdened, he just came to visit? He asks him to appoint judges over the people so he [Moses] remains an arbitrator in major disputes only to which he agrees and able men who fear god are appointed among the people to thousands, hundreds and tens. At this point only a few statutes if any have been issues, what statutes did father in law have in mind when he said Moses to teach the judges the matters of law.

Moses, father in law, his wife and two sons.

 

 

12 Angry men

As your host, I think we have had a lot of religion going on here and today I want us to sit back and be entertained. If you have read The Brothers Karamozov, you will see the parallels in this movie and the trial of Mitya who is accused of killing the family patriarch. In the case of Mitya, the battle is fought between the lawyers and we see an outstanding performance first by the prosecutor and at that moment, even though it is evident to the reader he [Mitya] is innocent of the blood of his father. The defense lawyer makes a sterling performance and for a moment we think the jury is going to let Mitya free but they return a guilty verdict.

Here, the movie starts with the judge giving the jury instructions telling them what duty they have in their hands and adds she does not envy their position. It is not my intention to spoil the fun for you. I hope you get time to watch and share your thoughts.

Enjoy

 

God on Trial

At Auschwitz, in the Nazi death camps god is put on trial. The verdict..

Whistling In The Wind

In a hut in Auschwitz a group of Jewish prisoners pray to God to save them from the gas chambers. However others condemn God for abandoning them. The prisoners decide to have a trial to see if God broke his covenant to protect the Jewish people. This is the plotline of an engrossing film, God On Trial. The hour and half long film gives a balanced debate with both sides presenting good arguments. They are essentially grappling with the age old question, why does God allow bad things to happen?

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Water and war at Horeb

This is the stuff comedy is made of. The sons of Israel didn’t carry enough water rations to last for 40 years and after taking a long

Water from the rock

detour into the desert, the inevitable happens, there is no water to drink and you know who they pile blame on. Moses takes the petition to god and is told to strike the rock at Mt. Horeb and viola we have water but he isn’t done yet he has to name the place. The place gets two names Massah and Meribah, am confused when do you call it what name?

If this is a war strategy, most generals would lose wars so easily but not the people of god

Then Amalek came and fought against Israel at Rephidim. So Moses said to Joshua, “Choose men for us and go out, fight against Amalek. Tomorrow I will station myself on the top of the hill with the staff of God in my hand.” 10 Joshua did as Moses told him, and fought against Amalek; and Moses, Aaron, and Hur went up to the top of the hill. 11 So it came about when Moses held his hand up, that Israel prevailed, and when he let his hand down, Amalek prevailed. 12 But Moses’ hands were heavy. Then they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat on it; and Aaron and Hur supported his hands, one on one side and one on the other. Thus his hands were steady until the sun set. 13 So Joshua overwhelmed Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword

Moses getting help with his hand. The sons of Israel can’t lose this war you know

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14 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write this in a book as a memorial and recite it to Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.” 15 Moses built an altar and named it The Lord is My Banner; 16 and he said, “The Lord has sworn; the Lord will have war against Amalek from generation to generation.”

Discussions with my old man

I don’t know whether my old man has finally accepted that am an atheist, or he is still in denial. You see, the last time we had this talk, he wasn’t so amused and had many questions and among them he thought that I have moved to the devils camp whatever that is and was worshiping devils to which I told him, he was more likely to be a devil worshiper than I since he at least believes they exist and can be worshiped. This is just a by the way.

I was home on Friday and early Saturday morning and we had this discussion on two main issues: death and marriage. For those who are not in the know, the Luo seem to have an obsession with death, we keep our dead for days on to allow everyone who can come for the funeral to show up, even those who hated the dead guy. There is a neighbor of ours who for reasons that are not clear to me quit life [took his own life] 2 weeks ago and had not been buried by yesterday. I wanted to know from my old man, why should we keep a dead person for so long? Life stops for the living just taking care of the dead. Tell me friends what you think on this matter and how long should it be before a person is buried, cremated or dumped in the sea especially if it is not a contested case where a postmortem has to be conducted.

The next discussion was on dowry or bride price or whatever else you want to call it. I wanted to know from my dad why the Luo in particular gave bride price. This practice is common for almost all the tribes living in Kenya. In his opinion he said, it was a way of saying thank you to the bride’s family, whatever for I don’t know.

These are my questions and your thoughts will be highly appreciated;

1. If it is saying thank you[ I don’t see why for] why is there a limit and a specific requirement? Doesn’t it make more sense if the groom’s family chose the way to say thank you and when to do this?

2. If they claim they have educated their daughter; is this a valid reason? What if the man is also educated? Does the grooms family get to ask for compensation if their son is more educated?

3. If the reason is she will give you children, what claim are they making here? Does she get the children from outer space? Are not the two parties involved in procreation? What if you for whatever reason the two can’t have children? Should you claim the bride price or should we in such a case then waive the bride price?

4. If the bride’s family demands money and they are given, should I then not be allowed to dispose of her as I do my other assets?

My last question is for those people who wed in churches or even for civil marriages, how does the word of the officiating minister make you husband and wife? If two people came to me and I said the same words, do they become husband and wife? What makes my words lack the power to make them husband and wife? I am aware there is a question of law here, but tell me, who gives the priest power to make you husband and wife? Are you not already husband and wife by the time you decide to see the minister?

I would love to hear your thoughts on these matters.

Gawd provides fudz

Nothing interesting here. Just wondering, when god told the sons of Israel to take a detour that would take them 40 years to the promised land, he didn’t think they would need food. I don’t remember them making provisions for the journey and if they are walking day and night, where do they good food?

He gives them food 6 days a week and has prohibitions for the 7th day. That is the day of rest for everyone including god so he doesn’t send food. I think he owns a private abattoir, since he provides them with meat and bread where-from only him knows.

Manna from the gods