A few things the religious are close to right


  1. The burial rite where they say from dust to dust. We are stardust.
  2. When the writer of the book of wisdom Ecclesiastes[ Chpater 1:2] says it’s all vanity.

Meaningless! Meaningless!”
    says the Teacher.
“Utterly meaningless!
    Everything is meaningless.”

3.They write it’s better to not have been born.

About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

25 thoughts on “A few things the religious are close to right

  1. holly says:

    I agree that we are dust to dust…stardust…
    but…i don’t think it all has to be vanity…
    and I don’t think it’s better to not have been born….

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    • makagutu says:

      Tell me, dear, do you have anything that is not vain?

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      • holly says:

        could you define vain for me? are you meaning…”futile – useless – unavailing – idle – conceited – empty”?

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        • makagutu says:

          meaningless, futile, amounts to naught.

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          • holly says:

            I suppose this one really haunts me. Is there no purpose? Considering where I came from, “you were created with a purpose, to love and worship the creator” to here…one might think it was easy to let go of all the “purpose” driven stuff…but I find it is not. Hang ups from ingrained religion? probably…
            is all….in vain?
            Perhaps logic and wishful thinking collide here…(for me)
            Is it vain to rewash the dishes….knowing they will only get dirty again?
            remake the bed? put things away…that have to be pulled out again?
            If one doesn’t…one will run out of available dishes…and clothes of course…
            Perhaps I find life having purpose a bit of necessity like this…
            I am convinced that it CAN all be vain…
            But I believe still that we are allotted to create and make our own purposes…that if we choose..those…then it doesn’t have to be in vain.
            Suffering and death…the existence of it is indeed overwhelming.
            But on the flip side…beauty and love and life and living…are such experiences that seem to counter act….
            Experience…what we get out of it….equal to some sort of purpose?
            The free will thing bugs the fire out of me…
            (I know this is a bit of a sensitive issue or rather explosive 😉 ) but I am not convinced on it.
            I have been rather affected by the writings of Viktor Frankl, and the idea that “the meaning of life is found in every moment of living; life never ceases to have meaning, even in suffering and death.”
            (pardon for the delay, but your posts so stir thoughts in me, and i am having very little time for the internet right now..so I ponder until i can grab my moment to reply)

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            • makagutu says:

              Holly my dear, your response is highly appreciated. You can take as long as you want as long I get to hear from you, I will be more than happy :-D.

              I have written quite a bit on free will. Whenever you have time just search free will on the search bar.

              Maybe it is a hang up from religion. Most people would want their to be something more not just what we create and adopt to give this absurd life meaning. To most the idea of meaningless all meaningless is revolting and paralyzing but we can look at the absurd life and revolt instead of killing ourselves. We can only live if we create meaning in this meaningless universe.

              All those feelings you mention even real, what do they amount to? It is a chasing after the wind!

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  2. niquesdawson says:

    hmmm….They write its better not to have been born…? Reference plz…

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  3. aguywithoutboxers says:

    A very astute observation, my brother! Good points on all three issues. Happy May Day! Much love and naked hugs!

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    • makagutu says:

      Happy May[Labour] Day brother. Big hugs, much love and enjoy being truly naked, someday, just someday I will cross those boundaries and see how it feels 😀

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      • aguywithoutboxers says:

        There’s no time like the present to make that move, my mentor and my friend! Our nakedness makes us all equal and free! No artificial barriers based on class or style! Much love and naked hugs! 😉

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  4. john zande says:

    Life is a struggle, yes… but it’s a wonderful experiment to be ever so briefly a part of….

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  5. Mordanicus says:

    If it is better not to have been born and god exist, then god must be evil. Because god had the choice not to create the world, if (s)he had abstain from creating the world then no one would have ever been born and should have been prevented from suffering any harm. Since causing harm is wrong and god has nevertheless chosen to do so, (s)he acted wrongly. Ergo god must be evil.

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    • makagutu says:

      If god is as the theologians want us to believe, then he can neither be good nor bad. It just is, impersonal, immutable and without body parts. The moment they say they believe in a personal god who is absolutely loving, then the charge of being evil must be placed at the doorstep of god.

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  6. Today is a great day to be stardust! 🙂

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  7. Ishaiya says:

    Stardust to stardust, nothing in between. Intent creates form; though it is still stardust.

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  8. lahacienda says:

    how do you remember all these details? I have to confess, I am clueless when it comes to religious texts.

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    • makagutu says:

      well for one it’s just been a year since I quit. Two could be that I read a lot and mother nature favoured me with above average memory and it has been trained on recall.
      The other likely reason is that since as I write a lot on Christianity and theism generally someone will come asking for reference

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