Everyday you read a post or comments by christ followers that leave you scratching your head wondering whether you are in a bad dream or you have gone back, using time travel to the second century. For, please tell, how can someone write
Being ‘schismatic’ is very serious- it means being cut off from the Vicar of Christ on earth, the pope and it was the first pope, st. Peter, who Jesus put in charge of ‘the keys’- ie deciding who gets into heaven, to put it simply. From the beginning the ‘experts’ in the church believed that ‘ outside the catholic church there is no salvation’ so it’s obviously very serious indeed to be in schism.
Anyone who is not a member of the visible church on earth might not end up in hell but if they don’t end up in hell its because of the graces coming to them through the catholic church, although not sure I’m explaining it very well. Speaking personally, I would not feel safe in a church of only 400 years or so, I’d want to be in the one founded by Christ.
Seriously! I don’t know what else to say except that we have lost this person permanently to the insane asylum, however, should they recover and return to the world of the rational, I shall have a beer ready for them.
Random thoughts 
Every religion tells that people of other religions will end up in hell. So in order to be sure not ending up in hell, one needs to adhere to every possible religion (and not just all existing religions). However, every religion also excludes any other religion.
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Basically, each religious person, whose religion includes a belief in hell, is going to the next hell of the rival religion!
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“Every religion tells that people of other religions will end up in hell”
Islam does not say that:
[2:63] Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=2&verse=62
It is for the willful wrong-doers to whatever religion they may belong.
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you realize that verse that you quote has a conditional, that they believe, it has no room for non believers
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Good point, it’s even more restrictive, since it requires three things: 1. believe in god, 2. believe in a last day, and 3. doing good things. Deists for example, believe only in 1 and 3, will therefore fail this condition.
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Haha, you are really funny my friend (referring to your sense of humor), sometimes I randomly remember some of your theory denyings and I laugh!!! 😀
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You can’t be too serious about life :-P. Some humor to go with it is always good, I hear they say you may live longer, unless you are hit by a stray bullet or a drunk driver 🙂
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Exactly 🙂
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Maybe they’ll return with stories to tell of some episode of time-travel, where they founded the first church of Christ, because they were Christ! Don’t these nut-jobs always have religious delusions anyway, I thought that was a classic sign of mental illness?
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I am at a loss for words! Do these people ever, for a moment, ask themselves why would a loving god, if such a thing exists, would have need for hell, when did he create hell and why? If we sent them all to the asylum, there is likely to be a rampage and shortage of shrinks to attend to them. In essence, the religious have made the world a big asylum!
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As far as I’m aware the concept of hell and the devil came a long time after the establishment of Christianity. Like a few hundred years, so how is that a basis for any kind of neo-religious logic? I don’t get that such people are so unaware of real-world history. Thing is clerics created the concept of hell to get more people through the door on a Sunday, and to stop them from marrying outside of their social class!
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Why someone would still think that this two magical places make some sense in this day is what is beyond me!
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Yeah absolutely agree with you, total waste of half a brain!
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Scary actually, that people actually believe this stuff.
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It’s very scary! These are people who if the church was to regain power would gladly take part in the Inquisition
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Reading this, I can’t help but feel that “schismatic” is not a very fortunate choice of words, here…. 😉
To answer yesterday’s question: I’m fine, thanks, Mak! How are you and what are you reading at the moment?
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Hey my great friend! Am doing great. Am reading A.C Grayling’s Good book and haven’t finished Vol 1 of World as Will and Idea by Schopenhauer as yet.
I am not sure whether the lady who wrote that comment was serious or it was a joke. In fact all the comments in the particular post read like the one I pasted here!
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I am busy on that thread at the moment. They truly are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. I have decided to take on “The Editor”.
I am not holding my breath as to how long it will be before they begin to delete me, but I am holding my tongue and merely asking straight questions.
They are dancing!
It should be fun…..
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have read the comments of you being very nice or it the comments policy?
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Well, she has written on Violet’s blog that am ‘tame’, so I consider that a green light.
I do admire the fact she has no Moderator running. THAT is marvelous.
But perusing other posts it is evidently clear there re no real discussions, merely Catholics beating their chests and in most cases ‘damning’ any and all dissent.
It might be interesting to stay for a while…I haven;t made up my mind yet.
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I keep visiting that blog just to see if the numbers of those who belong to lunatic asylum keep increasing.
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They are one of the most bigoted group of bloggers I have encountered.
Protestant fundamentalist are just…well, mental, but these lot take it to new heights as they seem to be tacitly defending the church. It is mind numbing.
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It is a Violet said, encountering aliens, one is not sure where to start with these people.
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Wow, I just skim read the comments and didn’t even pick up on that gem! It’s a true classic. Even worse ones are appearing. One person asked in a clearly concerned manner if they received communion from a paedophile priest would transubstantiation occur. There’s just no point in even joining a discussion like that – they are totally bonkers.
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it is a thread that if you join you’ll definitely be an alien. So I would rather watch it from the sidelines
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“Speaking personally, I would not feel safe in a church of only 400 years or so, I’d want to be in the one founded by Christ.”
-And Jesus- neither he ever go to a church nor he ever establish any church by himself.
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forgetting the part that the Jesus fellow is all myth, I agree with you on him not starting a church, though if the book of fables is to be believed he visited a few synagogues, churches nope!
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Jesus was a Jew; he did visit synagogues but not a Church.
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That’s what I was thinking. No problem dude, go sit in a field somewhere. Job done.
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such a great quote to demonstrate how Christians aren’t the uniform loving group that they always claim when insisting that Christianity is the “right” religion because it’s the most popular. They are all quite sure that no one but them are the TrueChristians. Catholics are sure that everyone but them are going to hell. Protestant evangelicals are sure that Catholics are pagans and headed straight to hell.
Of course, all religions do this. Orthodox Jews don’t like the liberal ones. Sunni hate Shia. Everyone wants to make believe that their imaginary friend is the only one and all fail to show that it’s true.
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Oh yes, the catholics are going to heaven, theirs being the only true church, the protestants are convinced the catholics are going to hell and so on! Crazy people indeed
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‘Outside the catholic church there is no salvation’ sound absurd!
At least he/she admitted it was not explained well. God is the one Who should decide who goes where, not the “graces of the catholic church”.
By the way, did the pastor (with the post about existence of God) responded you?
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Nope, the pastor must be quite busy getting followers to respond to my questions.
Why people want to go to heaven is beyond me though.
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Heaven is like a carrot on a stick for people with no built in morals to control their savage urges. If they weren’t controlled by scaring them of hell, they would unbashedly let loose their primitive instincts on others. So yeah, it is to scare the savage minded..That have existed over the centuries.. Other (normal) people don’t need all this..
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I agree with you here, the people who pretend to speak for their supposed god define hell so graphically to scare their followers, once one is hooked on the fear, it takes a lot of work to get them out.
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Where’s my gun! 😉
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Don’t get hurt shooting people 😛
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