Well, my friends, I really must say that the world has really gone bonkers going by what some people write on the web. Take for instance, this post about atheism. We are told
That’s right, belief in God and Atheism are not mutually exclusive. You can believe that God created the heavens and the earth, and still affirm Atheism.
Please can someone tell me the definition of atheism again! Here is a person who asserts the universe was created, class dismissed now go home, forget the requirement for providing evidence.
And please, tell me, maybe I am missing something here, how does the above position become
the only intellectually honest position to take in this age of scientific enlightenment?
Then it starts to border on the insane, or else how would someone write
This is the age of Answers in Genesis, Creation Ministries International, and The Institute for Creation Research. Let’s face it, Biblical creation is a scientific fact.
Someone please hit me on the face, I must be dreaming! Next time you are asked what is an oxymoron in an English lesson, here is one, biblical creation and scientific fact in the same sentence! And for lack of a better word, this fellow is an ignoramus, for, please tell, how would someone in this day and age belief such BS?
You can believe that God created everything as recounted in the Bible, but that after creation, God died. You can affirm a godless universe while still believing God created everything.
Who created god? Why did this particular god create anything then commit suicide? What was god doing during god time just before creation? What did god use to create the universe? And why the bible? Why not the Vedas, which are by far more poetic, more sublime than the bible, the Bhagavad gita, or any other religious text? What is so special about the bible?
It solves all the insurmountable problems with the failed hypothesis of Evolution, and it accommodates all the facts of science.
Last I checked, it was Laplace, who said he didn’t require the god hypothesis. It has no explanatory power and means nothing. It really is sad for someone who most likely haven’t read a page of any book on evolution to call it a failed hypothesis!
I can’t go on reading this trope, I will go crazy just responding to him, so as Nietzsche says in Beyond Good and Evil
“He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
I rest my case!
On a lighter note
Religions given till the end of the month to prove it
and you really can’t beat this god is bigger
and if you want to know why many times we have problems with the religious, look no further than a new life
has the definition of faith changed? What is faith?
and for those of you heathens who are suffering and need to explain it away, look no further than A warning from the dungeon
I couldn’t make sense of what this fellow was saying from off the top of his head, may one of you could help with that: Is atheism really the right option for scientists
and those yet to be saved, what are you waiting for? It is free will all over again! Redemption is a free will
Do you want to go to heaven? Then it is time to start hating like there is no tomorrow, yes, the bible recommends it! You cannot serve two masters
And finally, the reason god came down to save us from himself, so that we can learn forgiveness! Isn’t this awesome? The power of god’s forgiveness.
Random thoughts 
RE: “after creation, God died” – his tombstone reads, “I told you I was sick!”
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Yeah, i found that rather odd. How, precisely, does a god die?
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JZ, I don’t think the fellow really did think that far, he must have just wanted to write something to appear intelligent but then it backfired!
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I think we should ask him for clarification….
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He says I have taken his words out of context. Am waiting for a clarification.
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He answered me this way: “As Richard Dawkins has said, “I don’t have all the answers, science is working on it.”
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I saw it, and I know am not going to get a clarification at least not in the very near future!
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I think you might have found the silliest apologist on the net! 🙂
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I am sure we will still find more silly ones, no question about that.
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No doubt
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“God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance, that gets smaller and smaller as time goes on.”
— Neil Degrasse Tyson —
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Oh, go to the post and paste that!
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Hahaha! Who buried god?
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I’m glad you enjoy my humor – the reason I get so much out of life, is that I’m never more than semi-serious, about anything. Seriously.
Well, semi-seriously.
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I sure do enjoy your humour, somehow it helps in raising more questions especially on this fellow’s proposal that god died after creation. One wonders, how did he know? Dying happens to beings or things disposed in certain manner, was it starvation or drought that led to the death of god? Are there god assassins out there and why couldn’t this god not kill itself before creation given it had no plans to stay around and direct it?
Simply put, this fellow has put himself in more problems that he set out at the beginning to solve.
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That made me laugh! What crazy oxymoronic folk there are out there! 🙂
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Is there any truth to the rumor (or rumour, if you’re Brittishly-inclined), that the term, “oxymoron” refers to a person whose intellect has been degraded by oxygen deprivation?
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That’s kind of the definition I was working with! 🙂
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Hahaha! You have a funny sense of humour my friend!
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I tell you my dear friend, folks out here are crazy
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Oh goodness gracious no! You’ve taken my words all out of context! This is serious!
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Fair enough, just show me which particular portion is out context or better still put them in context here for my readers to understand, they are most interested in getting your point clearly.
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Oh my soul. I have no words….
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With all due respect, Sonel, you also have no soul.
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Now that must be the reason why I don’t believe in anything archaeopteryx. Thank you for pointing it out. 😉
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Oh, come on Sonel – there’re lots of things to believe in, love, foremost, and life, and children, and the beauty of life, and all that that entails – loss of a non-extant soul is a small price to pay.
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I sincerely hope, that in the last second of my life, I can hear the laughter of a child – please don’t tell me there’s nothing to believe in.
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My dear googlist, I know you must believe in something, there is a beautiful world seen through the lens of your camera and expert photography 😛
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Well, if you don’t have a soul you can’t believe in anything can you Makagutu … not love, laughter, compassion or even enjoy the beauty of nature and be grateful and well, you’ve seen what archaeopteryx said. According to him that know me so well, I don’t have one.
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As a naturalist, I don’t think I have a soul but I like a good laugh and beautiful photos 😛
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Same here Mak and thanks for the lovely comment on my photo’s as well. I am glad you like them. 😀
Have a great weekend. *hugs*
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Reblogged this on hitchens67 Atheism WOW!! Campaign and commented:
I believe in mythology!!!!
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You must believe in mythology or you are going to hell!
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Yayessss! I freely put on my ‘Will convert for proof’ shirt’
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If biblical creation is a fact, how can it be that genesis contains two mutually exclusive creation myths?
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You are being too rational, the two stories are all to be believed :-P. I don’t think the fellow knows the two stories are dissimilar.
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“I don’t think the fellow knows the two stories are dissimilar.”
99% of all christians do not read the bible, or only have read a few preselected parts of it.
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Because when the Jews Jerusalem was destroyed in the 500’s BCE, by the Babylonians, all of the Jews the Babylonians could round up, were taken prisoner and kept in Babylon. By this time, Gen 2 had already been written by a group biblical scholars have come to call, “the Yahwist Source,” so named because they exclusively called their god, “Yahweh.” The Jewish priests in Babylon concluded that the disaster that had befallen them was due to the fact that they had displeased their god, that they had strayed too far from the path he had intended for them, so they, who would later be known as “the Priestly Source,” set about rewriting some parts of their Bible in an effort to get their people back on the path they felt their god had originally intended. They saw Gen 2 (which at the time, was Gen 1) portrayed a god that was too anthropomorphic, after all, he personally beamed down to Earth for walks “in the cool of the day,” personally sewed clothing for Adam and Eve on his celestial Singer, and generally was simply far too human for their tastes. So they rewrote the creation story, to portray a more distant, more ethereal god, intending their version to replace Gen 2 entirely. Those who ultimately compiled the Torah, in 400 BCE, however, wanted to be on the safe side, and not take any chances of upsetting their god, so they included both versions.
You will also find two versions of the Noah story – this time,the first version was written, again, by the Yahwist Source, headquartered in the Southern Kingdom of Judea, around 950 BCE, while the second version was written by a group of priests, later known as “the Eloist Source,” a hundred years later, in the Northern Kingdom of Israel, located in Schechem. The two were combined when the priests from the North fled south to avoid being massacred, when the Assyrians destroyed Israel and killed or dispersed the entire population, razing their city to the ground. The entire history can be found in my work, “in His own image” (http://in-his-own-image.com/2010/01/24/-in-his-own-image-.aspx).
It seems those cantankerous Hebrews were always pissing somebody off.
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“Those who ultimately compiled the Torah, in 400 BCE, however, wanted to be on the safe side, and not take any chances of upsetting their god, so they included both versions.”
Following this line, one should accept all possible creation myths.
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This appears to be the case
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And you say I have patience talking to some of these folk. Sheesh, Mak, I would rather blow torch my nipples than get into dialogue with some of these crazies.
It really is scary that they might breed. 😉
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It is not might, they breed and pass on this information to the next generation.
Getting into dialogue with some of them is out of the question, you will get nowhere!
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Oh, you will get SOMEWHERE, Mak. In the loony bin with them…;)
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That’s the last place I want to be in! What I find interesting is, the author of the post commented that I misrepresented his post! Seriously! and he believes Answers in Genesis is serious science!
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The only answer to be found in Genesis, is to the question, “How gullible can people be?”
The only literary work nuttier, would have to be Lewis Ginzberg’s “Legends of the Jews” – well worth a read, if you want a good laugh. It’s available online, free.
Example: remember when blind old Isaac was on his deathbed (yet somehow managed to live another 20 years), and wanted his son, Esau, to make him a bowl of his “savory stew”? Esau went out to kill a deer for the stew, and while he was gone, his brother, Jacob, killed two lambs (why it took two lambs to make a bowl of stew, we’ll never know), and wrapping his arms in their skin, presented the stew to his father, passing himself off as hairy Esau, in order to obtain Isaac’s blessing.
Well, according to Ginzberg’s “Legends,” it seems that the reason Esau was gone so long, was because, although he had been touted as being an expert archer, he decided to run down the deer on foot. He then tied it up and went in search of another (again, why two?), and while he was chasing it down, Satan came along and untied the first one. This continued for much of the afternoon, so Jake got his blessing instead.
And there are many, many more – Ginzberg isn’t trying to claim they’re true, he’s just presenting the collection of old Hebrew legends that grew out of the biblical stories, which are themselves, legends.
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This is hilarious! reminds me of a story about a man who has been asked to go fetch water from the river and carry it in a sieve!
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It’s impossible. If that god was almighty, why would he allow to die?
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Hey my friend, sorry my response is coming in quite late, have been away from WP.
I think this fellow didn’t think through all his ideas.
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