All religions are human in their origins, erroneous in their theories and ridiculous in their threats and rewards.

Necessity of atheism by D. M Brooks

All religions a…

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

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  1. Mordanicus says:

    No word untrue. Btw I saw you followed me back on twitter.

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  2. aguywithoutboxers says:

    A very accurate observation, my friend! Excellent selection! Ever since humans first invented belief systems, death and destruction soon followed. I hope your weekend is pleasant!

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  3. mixedupmeme says:

    I often wonder why
    Religion passed me by
    I often wonder why
    With religion I have no tie

    Religion’s just a lie
    Faulty thoughts in man’s eye
    Religion’s just a lie
    Man’s logic gone awry

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  4. Good one Mak. Throughout history, humans have projected their mental disorders onto the gods they created. Many mentally ill are so bold as to deem themselves gods. I do not share that to stigmatize mental disorders. Sadly, those with mental disorders, who are in power-leadership positions, create the very cultural environments that induce mental disorders. It’s no surprise that mental illness is epidemic, perhaps even pandemic in some areas of the world.

    Neuropharmacological studies generally point to dopaminergic activation as the leading neurochemical feature associated with religious activity.

    Hyperreligiosity is a major feature of mania, obsessive-compulsive disorder, schizophrenia, temporal-lobe epilepsy and related disorders, in which the ventromedial dopaminergic systems are highly activated…]”

    The evolution of religion is linked to an expansion of dopaminergic systems in humans,…]

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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16439158

    “Religion. It’s given people hope in a world torn apart by religion.” ~Jon Stewart

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  5. Me too, Mak, me too. Btw, speaking of everything being about god, did you see this post?

    http://raisingkidswithoutreligion.net/2013/11/11/watch-this-atheist-become-a-believer-before-your-very-eyes/

    To add insult to injury, the heroin addict went back to his heroin habit, and CBS never did a followup.

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  6. Notice towards the end of the comments where the conversation ended up going.

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    • makagutu says:

      Debs is too polite. Look at her conversation with the Muslim who believes the Koran has some truth about the existence of god.
      I didn’t watch the video though.

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      • No need to watch the video. I think Debbie summarized it well. She was very polite, yes. Diplomatic. All I could think about, as he talked about the claims of truth of his god, were the oppressive and inhumane rules place on women and girls. I could imagine what he was thinking — he was superior over Debbie.

        http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/11/top_ten_rules_in_the_quran_tha.html

        He was eager to point out how different (better) his religion was from the other two monotheistic religions that have, for centuries, oppressed at least half of our species — all three of them.

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        • makagutu says:

          I don’t usually manage that much patience. And with such long comments as his, am not sure I’d read all of it.
          The three Abrahamic religions were a blot in our shared humanity.

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          • Neither do I, Mak. A contributing writer for Big Think, Adam Lee, wrote this. I was reminded of it when you mentioned a type of Stockholm Syndrome as well as a blot in our shared humanity.

            It is tragic, but understandable, why so many men throughout history have supported these sexist and patriarchal belief systems. More incredible is how many women have willingly taken part in their own subjugation by joining and participating in religions that have done their utmost to deny them the full equality and equal rights which they deserve.

            The reality is that sincere religious beliefs and legitimate interpretations of scripture can, and very often do, cause immense evil and harm. And when a more enlightened future age arrives to tote up the harms done by religion, I am certain that the systematic oppression and denial of basic rights to one-half of the human race will rank near the top.

            When at least half our species is oppressed it affects the whole of humanity. The proof is in our history — a history that keeps repeating itself. So yeah, I have no patience when it comes to religions like this.

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          • makagutu says:

            Am reading the link you sent on Islam and it is unbelievable there are people who think that book is inspired by a god

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          • Thank you for taking the time to do that link. The irony is that the writer is claiming that his religion, his Bible, is so much better with regard to women.. He doesn’t mention that in this particular article but in other articles he wrote. It becomes so clear to me that he is blinded by his own faith, and therefore cannot see that there’s really little difference between the Quran and the Bible when it comes to promoting the inferior status of women.

            http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm

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          • makagutu says:

            Now that is crazy. I didn’t read about the author, just read the post and found it, for lack of a better word, absurd. To say he is a christian who believes his book of books is better, now that is a surprise!
            A book where women for the most part go un-named!

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          • A book where women for the most part go un-named!

            If only that were the worst of it. No, they are commanded to burn the daughter with fire — given the death penalty by incineration — should she lose her virginity without marriage, and cut off her hand should she defend her husband by grabbing the offenders testicles. Or, you know, offering your daughters to be raped by strangers, and on and on it goes.

            But Mak, that’s bad, really bad — yet my country gives tax exempt status to religious institutions who promote this diabolical book. Think of the message it’s sending? Jesus talked well of Moses and Abraham, yet Abe was willing to slaughter his child, while the child watched in utter fear. Moses commanded his people to go into other lands and kill everyone except the virgin girls to keep (rape) for themselves, plus steal all their belongings and property all because God said so.

            So it really doesn’t surprise me that this guy, who has several degrees at an Ivy league school, writes about the horrors in the Quran, yet can’t see that the Bible is equally, if not worse than the Quran. After all, the most powerful country in the world (at present) endorses it.

            Presidents take their oath of office by placing their hand on it. People in the courts, giving testimony, place their hand on it and have to swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. At the top of Supreme Court building — Moses sits front and center holding the 10 Commandments. All of this I’m sure you are aware of, even though you are from another country. My point is that it’s absolutely crazy, fucked up — and it utterly amazes me what people can get away with when they put the word ‘Holy’ in the title of a book.

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          • makagutu says:

            Am not sure there is a separation between government and church here. The politicians dine with the bishops and the only time either party cries is when they feel offended!

            I know it’s a bad book and especially its teachings on women. How would any man read those chapters on Lot giving his daughters to be raped to his young daughter and expect at the end to get some moral teaching from it? It is beyond belief!

            IF women can look squarely at this book and say not anymore, the battle to free the minds of men will be half won.

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          • True — but what a wonderful world it would be if men could look squarely at this book and say “not anymore”. The battle to free the minds of both men and women would be won. After all, Christianity is a male religion, unfortunately supported by Stockholm Syndrome women.

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          • makagutu says:

            Well said.
            It is time we collectively said no, not anymore shall we believe such teachings

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          • Thank you so much, Mak. Your comment is one of the reasons I consider you a dear friend. You ‘see’. I know to some this will come off as being ‘sensitive’, but I don’t give a damn what some will think. It really cuts like a knife to the marrow of my bone that men hold on to and promote such a vile religion that has historically brought enormous harm to humanity, and psychologically effed up women, too. It represents ZERO emotional intelligence. I can only think of one male religion that hasn’t brought enormous harm to humanity. This is why I do believe that these religions literally cause mental disorders. What person in their right mind would endorse such belief systems?

            Thank you, Mak, for the validation. So few see what you see. So few, and it grieves me.

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          • makagutu says:

            Thank you for your kind words.

            Those who argue there there is something good, something noble about religion and that even if it is not true, we should keep it, are the ones who are helping in perpetuating this malaise.

            It is time we called it what it is and that time is quickly passing us. It is time to press for change in mindset.

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          • Hear, hear.

            Religion is about obtaining a reward, and especially dopaminergic is the anticipation of a reward, (e.g., acknowledgement/approval by a god — heaven) and that has been proven via fMRI scans. Robert Sapolsky professor of biology and neurology at Stanford University, compared dopamine levels in monkeys and humans. Unlike monkeys however, humans kept those dopamine levels up for decades waiting for the reward.

            Tell me what is noble about that? A rhetorical question of course. I ask people, when they try to reconvert me back to their faith, Christianity, why they are doing it? They get this blank look on their face. They don’t even realize their motives.

            Studies show that rapists are considered more trust-worthy than nonbelievers in my country. We have a very serious problem regarding religious propaganda, and it will take a while before people overcome their fear of nonbelievers. We have our work cut out for us. As you know, I live in the South of USA and I have to keep a low profile for my own well being. How we can safely get around this, I’m not certain.

            Robert Sapolsky said in his article “Peace Among Primates” that we may be hardwired to get edgy around the Other, but who falls into that category is decidedly malleable (neuroplasticity). Religion promotes Othering — tribalism, and that has to stop or we will most certainly become extinct. Dr. Carl Sagan poignantly stated that an organism at war with itself is doomed.

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          • makagutu says:

            Carl Sagan was so right.
            Now a story, totally unrelated that left me so cheered up last week.
            There is a colleague of mine with whom we go for lunch together. Last week we go to the same place we go all the time. He is in the habit of telling me I will be struck by lightning for my position and we usually laugh about it. So as we are waiting for our food, we start a discussion on the bible and religion generally and there is this gentleman we were in campus together who joins and shock on me, he had similar views as I did on religion, hell, heaven and the bible. I wished lunch time was 2 hours 馃槢

            The unbelievers here have not been vocal in the past. It is now that I think we are beginning to actively talk about it and maybe the public is ignoring this thorn, but not for long.

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          • Great story, Mak. Those are golden moments. I think that it’s very important that we don’t ‘Other’ while trying to bring awareness about the harm that religion, in its current state, is causing on humanity. This is something I have to work on daily — to be effective without Othering. Because I have been harmed by religion, and due to my human rights advocacy and activism work, which has exposed me to more harm caused by religion, I can get triggers. Triggers can be recognized in the form of sarcasm. I have to constantly nurture awareness — and the propensity to be sarcastic with believers can get the best of me and undermine my efforts when I’m not aware.

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          • makagutu says:

            I agree with you, to move forward, we must be all inclusive.
            I use sarcasm only so far as it is a literary device to bring a larger point home, but never to segregate.

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          • makagutu says:

            Carl Sagan was so right.
            Now a story, totally unrelated that left me so cheered up last week.
            There is a colleague of mine with whom we go for lunch together. Last week we go to the same place we go all the time. He is in the habit of telling me I will be struck by lightning for my position and we usually laugh about it. So as we are waiting for our food, we start a discussion on the bible and religion generally and there is this gentleman we were in campus together who joins and shock on me, he had similar views as I did on religion, hell, heaven and the bible. I wished lunch time was 2 hours 馃槢

            The unbelievers here have not been vocal in the past. It is now that I think we are beginning to actively talk about it and maybe the public is ignoring this thorn, but not for long.

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          • “…do that link.” LOL — My brain and fingers are not communicating very well with each other today.

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        • Just for clarification — “all three of them” — meaning religions.

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