Alvin Platinga thinks so and this is why.
He argues that the universe is fine tuned for life. All along, I thought it was the other way round.
He argues maybe the best possible world is this we are living in. That an omni god couldn’t do better than we have is quite revealing.
Go read it.
I’d rather eat my own liver and wash it down with ink than read through another of Plantinga’s endless essays in self-deception.
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That my friend is a wise decision.
One would expect that after several years of practicing how to deceive people into believing a god exists he still uses the same specious arguments
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I , despise Plantinga and was going to use a toilet paper analogy…but yours is so much more descriptive, Pink. lol
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He’s the perfect picture of everything that’s wrong with religious thinking. Worse of all is how academia (and the world) is willing to put aside everything we know of logic and reason (and even philosophy) to give that man a place in the debate.
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And to say he ranks among the most sophisticated of theistic philosophers
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that’s sophistRicated 🙂
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I have read posts by apologists who say we haven’t read the best of the theist philosophers and they name Platinga as one of them. One then wonders if this is what he has to offer what does the worst of the theists have?
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Prayson? Eeek!
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Yes
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Debillis? Double Eeeeek!
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He annoys me. I would be sick if I read his blog consistently
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I understand liver goes best with a side of fava beans and a nice chianti, rather than ink.
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Plantinga is a clear example of a “philosopher” suffering from extreme confirmation bias, which is amplified by his lack of knowledge of what he is talking about.
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The good Professor, Paul Bratterman, took Platinga apart this morning. Well worth a read:
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Well written piece.
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Indeed. he’s a good man.
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Such a fundamental, and lazy error to make. Does he have another universe to compare ours against?
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This is a question he should answer
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It’s a question you should present to anyone trying to use the cosmological constant argument. Refuse to proceed any further until they present another universe to compare ours against.
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I agree with you on that.
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@ all the viewers of the “Random thoughts” blog
Question:”Is atheism irrational”?
Answer: Yes, sure it is irrational.
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Did you read the post?
In what way is atheism irrational? Or to make it easier for you, how is theism rational
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Crazy these theists
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So full of ego
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From the article:
“Think about it: The first being of the universe, perfect in goodness, power and knowledge, creates free creatures.”
Christians make the following claims:
1. God is a perfect being.
2. God created the universe.
3. God desires adoration and obedience.
By definition, the word perfect means complete, i.e:
– lacking in no essential detail
– as good as it is possible to be
– entirely without flaws, defects, or shortcomings
– excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement.
In other words, a perfect being is a being without needs or desires. Yet claims two and three directly contradict claim one. Moreover, the god of the Bible is prone to sudden paroxysms of rage, anger, hatred, jealousy, vengefulness, grief and remorse — hardly the traits of a perfect and complete being.
Hence, the Christian conception of God is severely flawed.
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I don’t think the Christian thinks of all these in one go.
The comments on the post were much more entertaining than the interview.
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Agreed! The top-rated comments dissected Plantiga’s tissue-thin ‘arguments’ with gusto. If this is the best defense philosophical theism has to offer… they’re sunk.
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I think they have been sinking for so long.
The likes of Platinga and WLC are only making it quick
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And by the definition offered under postulate 1, Yahweh cannot be a god, he doesn’t fit the job description.
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The only way to KNOW that our Earth is more PERFECTLY designed for life than any other place in the Universe, is to first see and study EVERY planet in the Universe and compare them to ours. If, once we’ve done that, we find nothing but gas and sand, and no life or no life with any intelligence like ours, then and ONLY then can we say our planet is THE only one fine tuned for life, and that life like ours most unique and exist no where else in the Universe. It is, mind you, a Universes with about 200 to 300 billion galaxies in it, each with perhaps 200 to 300 billion stars, and most, if not all of those, have planets orbiting them. Thus, only a buffoon would say he or she had enough data to prove life on Earth is so unique it must have been planned that way by some intelligent, all-powerful, invisible guy for whom not a single solitary shred of evidence exists t show he’s real. A more intelligent hypothesis, is one that states, given what we know of the Universe and the universality of the laws of nature, it is most likely, that somewhere else out there, life exists, and quite possibly intelligent life. There’s no proof. But, I go with this hypothesis over the god one because it’s based on reason and good scientific deduction. I’m sick of theists talking about how fucking special our grain of sand planet is in a Universe we can see almost none of. Idiocy.
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It is arrogance to make such a claim without supporting evidence
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Which anyone being honest has to admit would be damned impossible for us to gather. Our view of”what’s out there is SO tiny.” But, then again, so are the minds of many theists.
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You are right on both counts
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funny that you wrote this because it is the atheist who claims that they are conscious of everything that exists in the universe and then being able to affirm that something does not exist – even God
I laugh at irrational atheists like you
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And we laugh at those lacking enough frontal lobe activity to upload an avatar. But no. The anonymous name caller hides behind his irrationality in his world of fantasy dreaming of his own importance when, in reality, he’s a mere boy, afraid of girls and not yet sure if he even likes them as much as he does the older boys who taunt him and question whether his willy is in fact a girl part because it is so small. Oh, yon anonymous one! Oh, how you yearn to be a man, but oh, how you become more lady-like as each day passes.
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I used your own words to show how irrational atheist are.
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“Which anyone being honest has to admit would be damned impossible for us to gather”
Forgot to write your comment.
And still have the nerve to challenge Platinga!
Dumb atheist….hahaha
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“Not,” as Seinfeld says, “That there’s anything wrong with that –“
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“Atheism, like even-star-ism”. Stopped right there. Twinkle twinkle little star.
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How I wonder what you are. Are you spaghetti, or are you salad? I don’t know, but I’ll sing you this ballad! Oh little star that is so tiny, you are like a brain that’s soft and shiny. You sit in the head of a guy named Fred, who worships some dude who’s long been dead. He says though dead, this dude yet lives, you can eat his body by breaking bread. I often wonder of my friend Fred, if he is crazy or just so lazy that he can not see what’s clear to me, we know no more than the willow tree of what you and what made me. And yet we kill and mock and joke about those silly funny folk, who don’t believe in things unseen because they’re told to us by mere human bein’s. I think that was what you meant to say.
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Wow, roll over Longfellow!
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