Why does god let us suffer


This horse has been beaten for a long time and now it is waking up from its death bed, defying all the taunts aimed at it. Finally someone has the answers for why we suffer.

God allowing suffering has four main causes. Suffering can come from your own sin, the sin of others, God testing you, or so that God might be glorified through it; unfortunately, if one of these is not the case then we are not certified to seek an explanation. Endurance will bear fruit. These unfortunate situations will ultimately bring glory to God.

Apart from sin being an imaginary ailment created by pastors to have a reason to offer their cure, why would an omni anything test you? How warped is this kind of thinking? And how can one say if any of the answers above doesn’t deal with your case, then you can’t seek an explanation. There is no room for redress. God can fuck us all he cares and we can’t ask why? Thanks goodness, no gods have been found anywhere. In the end we suffer so that god can receive glory. Now you know the answer.

We are further given scripture readings that absolve god from telling men why they suffer. The OP writes

Does a clay pot dare argue with its maker, a pot that is like all the others? Does the clay ask the potter what he is doing? Does the pot complain that its maker has no skill? Do we dare say to our parents, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ The Lord, the holy God of Israel, the one who shapes the future, says: ‘You have no right to question me about my children or to tell me what I ought to do! I am the one who made the earth and created human beings to live there.’”-Isaiah 49:9-12 

We also get a passage from Job, which doesn’t answer why we suffer only that we shouldn’t complain when god makes us suffer. The author writes

Consider the joy of those corrected by God! Do not despise the chastening of the Almighty when you sin. For though he wounds, he also bandages. He strikes, but his hands also heal.”-Job 5:17-18

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

20 thoughts on “Why does god let us suffer

  1. Because he is an evil, malevolent god. Who says if there’s a supreme super daddy he has to be all good? The God of the Bible is evil. Easiest solution. Once, there was nothing. Then, there was the universe God created. He made it. He made evil. He is evil. He tosses good out there to yank it away and create suffering. He enjoys making lesser beings suffer. He gets off on anger. He drowns things that he’s made that piss him off. He is evil. Pure. Cold. Simple. Evil.

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    • But why, why would anyone want to do this? It just hurts, even the thought of it…

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      • makagutu says:

        I think one only realizes this once you have left the shackles of religion. Then one begins to ask why and how could I have believed all these for this long?

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        • Charity says:

          So true, my friend. Religion is oppression. I had a serious fear of hell when I left. I realized recently that it’s turned into a fear of death. I never really looked at dying the way I do now. It’s a fear that I probably should have dealt with while I was younger. However, when you live in a world that relies on the fictitious eternal, you rarely take a hard look at your own mortality. It’s embarrassing when I realize just how much Father, Son and Holy Ghost have stunted my growth in matters of life, death, science, philosophy, history and most definitely, compassion. “His” yoke isn’t easy and “His” burden isn’t light.

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          • makagutu says:

            When you come to think of it, religion hardly prepares a man for death. It makes one fearful of the end of all feeling by creating imaginary places and feeling them with imaginary beings some good and others horrid.

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    • makagutu says:

      And we approve of this message.

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  2. such a sick sad sycophantic argument. To have a god that needs to harm others for “glory” is rather sad. Who does it have to impress?

    As mak has said, testing makes no sense with an omnipotent being, it comes down to a puppetmaster doing what he wants and the “might makes right” argument.

    the last is just perfect, “shut up and don’t ask, you don’t deserve to know”. Seems rather like the good ol’ petty ignorant tyrant that the Christian god demonstrates itself as consistently.

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    • makagutu says:

      There is a disconnect in the theist mind I think. On one hand, god created everything and he is all powerful and on the other man can go against god’s designs, makes god angry, and god then tests him to see if he will pass the test. This god the theist insist is also all knowing. I would want someone to kindly explain to me what some of these words mean when used by Christians. I think their dictionary and mine are different so that everything means except sin, all powerful except intervening where he could, all knowing except he needs to verify this all the time by testing man and benevolent except if you don’t believe in the unholy spirit!

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      • He’s all knowing, and all evil. He fucks with us because he likes it and there’s nothing we can do about it.. Now that, though I don’t believe any of it, makes sense to me. “I’m God. I’m a rotten fucker. I made you to watch you suffer cause it gets me off. Deal with it.” Nothing nebulous there.

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      • shelldigger says:

        I feel like this test of faith thing is more from the theist than the god. This supposed god sees all, knows all, wills all, and would surely already know whether or not the believer has adequate faith. The test is does the theist know, with their few logic cells that are left for thinking, is their faith strong enough? I fear their concern in this area says more of their doubts than their faith. That they must resort to the idea of a test is an admission of, “sometimes shit is so bad we cannot understand any other reason for our damned god to let it be so.”

        You would never get one to admit it though. They already have too much invested into the scam, and double down.

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        • makagutu says:

          I recently asked a guy how to measure the validity and strength of ones faith. His response was faith comes from within. The conversation could not proceed beyond here.

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  3. Aquileana says:

    A very thoughtful and deep post… I really need this kind of words to understand a few things and feelings I have gone through the latest weeks. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes from Aquileana 😉

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  4. Eric Alagan says:

    When a lie is spoken – it takes many lies to keep smothering it. Amazing, I reckon.

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  5. Arkenaten says:

    It’s going to take time, but thanks to a global communication network the truth will “out” and no matter how they try to do the theological two step the dance will eventually be over.

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