How can a man do this to his wife, all in the name of religion?
How can a man do this to his wife, all in the name of religion?
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That’s why in a secular society only civil marriages should have legal recognition.
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What an brilliant idea. This is something we can fight for.
(BTW, how did the elections go?)
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Noy for gay couples though. The Bible says it’s wrong. God bless the fucking Bible.
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LOL of the LOL… 😀
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I got five votes, and not elected. But my party has become the largest, though it has lost one seat.
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Five votes is better than none! It’s a learning experience for the next election in which you’ll be a shoe-in!
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In many civil law countries, under influence of the Code Napoleon, is civil marriage the only legally recognized form of marriage. In reality many people marry twice: first for the state (civil marriage) and then for the church (ecclesiastical marriage).
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I’d never actually thought about it thins way. You’re right: all marriages (in the west) are in fact civil unions.
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I usually marry for lust, and on rare occasions, money.
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I usually marry cause the gal’s dad holds a gun to my head.
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That’s almost verbatim what my son-in-law said on his wedding day.
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We don’t know each other, do we? You got a daughter named Sallie Lou Hildegard who growed up on the side of interstate 66 in Indiana?
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Thankfully, no – to the daughter, not to knowing you — 🙂
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Oh, don’t worry. It was merely a ..hypothetical question. No truth there at all….absolutely not…um… I gotta go
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Hmmmm – where’d I put that 12-gauge, Maud –?
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Why do I feel like we’re on an old episode of the Andy Griffith Show?
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I’m not sure, Opie, why do you think that is?
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Not sure. Maybe I should ask Aunt Bea? Wadda think, Pop?
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I think you should check with Ernest T. Bass, but watch out for flying rocks!
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Will do.
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That was easy, for a minute there, I thought you were going to make me go through the whole character list!
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I thought about it, but decided, Naw, Andy wouldn’t want that. Though why not, I don’t know.
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You changed your avatar! It’s Klondike Pete!
(How do I know that?)
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Although I DID spend some time in Indiana, and there WAS this girl, the daughter of missionaries, but no, she said she was on the pill —
Girls never lie about things like that, do they?
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Hahaha!
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I agree with you
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Well, in a secular society only civil marriages do have legal recognition. That is why he was able to remarry in a Los Vegas legal ceremony. The fact that, apparently, he is a member of a ‘good ol’ boy’ faction of Judaism is to his advantage. Legally, she could also remarry. She could walk into any civil court and get a marriage license because she is legally divorced as far as the country’s legal system is concerned.
The fact is, if she cannot obtain the ‘get’ no practicing Orthodox Jewish man will have her. Even if he would their marriage would not be approved or acknowledged in the ‘Jewish Court’ system which is something totally separate and completely religious.
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What I wonder is why can’t she just let go of the religion and move on with her life unless she wants to marry another Orthodox Jew?
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Clearly this is additional proof of the hypocrisy of followers of self-serving belief systems. They selfishly adhere to archaic practices that obviously benefit themselves. I wholeheartedly concur with your selected title here, my Nairobi brother: “F*ck religion!” Nice link! 🙂
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Glad you liked it. I couldn’t think of a better title!
How are you my friend?
Hugs
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I would like to think if it were I, I would say:
“Religion, I divorce you.
Religion, I divorce you.
Religion, I divorce you.”
and go on my merry way. But I know the hold of any religion on some is mightier than one’s will power.
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Why, I agree with you. Just divorce religion and go on with your life!
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He can be so glad he’s not married to me. The bastard!
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Why do I think you would have googled him out of existence 🙂
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hahahahah! You know me so well Mak. 😀
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You’re missing the real point here, Mak. This dude’s first wife makes the best damn matzo ball soup this side of Israel. It’s the soup he’s clinging to, not her. And since Judaism, like Islam and Christianity, was created back in the day by ignorant old men, it favors ignorant old men and says fuck you to women. Guy got 100 rabbi’s to say this was OK? Fuck that. Religion needs to be taken away from people and thrown out the way children’s pacifiers are by their mother’s when they’ve outgrown them. Religion sucks. And they 3 monotheistic misogynistic one’s are the worse.
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Aha, I see. Some of things we need help to understand them
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Hahaha..
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Wow, I had no idea there was that kind of money in that! I may be looking at a career change!
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I may join as your accountant
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Yes, it’s financially rewarding from the “get go”.
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Okay, I didn’t read many comments, and maybe I am missing something here, but the question that immediately comes to the fore, is: Why the hell does the first wife wish to remain Jewish and give a shit about the religious aspect?
Who is the more nuts?
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Good point.
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She’s free to do whatever she wants – legally. It is because she’s clinging to her religion that she’s having problems. Been there, myself.
However, I will say, that for her leaving Judaism may mean giving up her child, her parents, her siblings, any friends she has – especially if she’s that orthodox. She probably feels damned if she does- damned if she doesn’t.
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Oy Vey!
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Is that the proverbial rock and hard place!
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That may answer what you wondered in your previous reply to me. To us it seems so simple. Just let go of the religious baggage and move on, but it may not be so simple as that.
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Sinatra and his first wife, Nancy, were Catholic – though Frank married several more times after the divorce, Nancy never did, because it was her belief that divorce wasn’t an option. “What god hath joined together, etc.”
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That belief nearly drove me to the looney bin.
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Trust me, it’s not such a bad place, once you chew through your restraints.
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LOL – I didn’t quite make it that far. But almost…
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The only time I hear voices now, is when I need a second opinion.
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Spencer Tracy would not divorce a wife he clearly did not love, as he had a long, long affair with Katherine Hepburn, for the same reason. Religion needs to be mocked out of existence.
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We’re trying, we’re trying –!
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I’m trying pretty hard too. We’ll get there one day, I hope.
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We try, it has a thick skin though
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She must have wanted to go to heaven and not even a divorce was going to come in between
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Well, that is a terribly difficult question to answer!
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If he subscribes to a religion, then by that religion’s tenets he has broken the Law – so, what are the religious authorities doing? It seems that in this case, the man is a law unto himself.
Why is the ex clinging to something that treats women as second class?
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Well, I see he has managed to get a few like him to agree that he is right.
How are you Eric, been a while?
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1) This is a terrible thing to do to someone.
2) The one-line analysis in the OP seems fundamentally flawed in its interpretation. Reading the article I got the impression he is doing this to screw over his first wife and as a ploy to get custody of his kids. He is not doing it because Orthodox Judaism or his religious beliefs demand it, hence he is not doing it “in the name of religion.” He is doing it because he’s being a jerk and using the religion to get what he wants. That’s not the same thing as performing an action in the name of his religion.
3) To jump from where Ruth left off, it would be more than just giving up family and friends. It would be giving up her entire lifestyle!
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He is doing it because the religion makes it possible and that is what I wrote. He’s screwing his first wife because there is a loophole in the religion that makes it possible and she can’t leave because of a religious prohibition.
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How can a man do this to his wife, all in the name of religion?
Uhm, no. What you wrote very clearly states the man did this to his wife in the name of his religion, implying that is his motivation for doing it. When at best certain religious traditions provided him with means to do it, but clearly it wasn’t the reason he did it (his motivation), hence your original statement is still flawed or at least very poorly worded.
He’s not screwing his first wife because there is a loophole in the religion. He is *able* to screw his first wife because there is a loophole in the religion (addition mine).
It’s a distinction that needs to be made between motivation versus method. If I or any other theist had made a similar statement about Stalin persecuting religion in the name of Atheism, every atheist and their mother would be all over me.with all sorts of linguistic distinctions of this sort!
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I don’t know why we are arguing over semantics. In the linked article, the man is doing whatever he is because the religion makes it possible for him to do it. There is no other enabling thing. It is the name of religion whether it is motivation or means, religion stands accused and that is what I meant.
Thanks for making the distinction though.
I however don’t see where the Stalin debates comes in.
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I am arguing semantics because I find your argument to be full of semantics. I do see it as necessary to distinguish between what motivates a person and their means when one uses the phrase “in the name of X.” Because their actions aren’t being performed in the name of X!
Otherwise, we’re in agreement that this a crappy thing to do to someone. We’re also in agreement I imagine that at the very least (barring them not losing their religion as so many hope in this thread hope), they will at least reform the practice to allow women to initiate divorce or be able to divorce if a man acts like an idiot like this.
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Help me understand something; where do we disagree. At no point did I say he is doing it for the religion. My intention throughout was to expose what his religion has made possible. Unless you disagree he is able to screw the first wife because of religion, I would want to know where we are in disagreement.
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🙂 excellent title… yesss, I do agree with it… 😉
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P.S. you have the same avatar photo as Paula, an Aussie blogger… 🙂
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Welcome Melanie.
I like the koala
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The title of your post should be “FUCK religion”. No asterisks needed, no shame, no respect. Just plain old FUCK.
How is it going my Noel?
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Have been well my friend.
As they say, this is a family blog and children may be reading 🙂
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“Oops!”
(Rick Perry)
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“Daddy, what do those stars mean –?”
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Hahaha!
Someday son you will find out on your own 🙂
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Children? Oh you mean Christians? 🙂
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Interestingly, Mike, often we try to find euphemisms for the word, FUCK, whereas FUCK itself is a euphemism, from Olde English, for, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.
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Thanks for spreading the knowledge 🙂
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I think this apt.
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Fascinating video, which fits this topic perfectly, but first:
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