KRISHNAMURTI: You mean why do we have to have love? Why should there be love? Can we do without it? What would happen if you did not have this so-called love? If your parents began to think out why they love you, you might not be here. They might throw you out. They think they love you; therefore, they want to protect you, they want to see you educated, they feel that they must give you every opportunity to be something. This feeling of protection, this feeling of wanting you to be educated, this feeling that you belong to them is what they generally call love. Without it, what would happen? What would happen if your parents did not love you? You would be neglected, you would be something inconvenient, you would be pushed out, they would hate you. So, fortunately, there is this feeling of love, perhaps clouded, perhaps besmirched and ugly, but there is still that feeling, fortunately for you and me; otherwise, you and I would not have been educated, would not exist.
Ninth Talk at Rajghat on Love and Loneliness by Krishnamurti
Random thoughts 
If that’s his attitude on love, I can see why he’d be lonely.
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I don’t know whether he was lonely, but he quite many interesting ideas on life, freedom, love and truth
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
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I understand it in the light of evolution, if you are ‘loved’
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You will be looked after, fed and protected and you will survive!
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Is this possible without love too?
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Yes I just went back to the roots :
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There are so many forms of love, to give and receive as well.
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When am not thinking too hard about it, I say it is a good thing to love but greater still to be loved. And as the say, love makes the world go round
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Sometimes one must be satisfied with just a singular direction I think.
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Sometimes the best is to just live
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I live : )
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A difficult word, especially within families. Love, familiarity, companionship, closeness, friendship, obligation? Who can say.
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one thing am sure about, I can’t say. It is a difficult topic for me
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I can’t either. Been in a relationship for years but how to define it? And parental love? Hmmm
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I hear people talk about it, maybe I should do a poll and ask for definitions or what people have in mind. I could learn something
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Very complex. But go for it. Do you love your annoying parents after forty or fifty years? The same for your spouse? Can’t comment about kids. Where does friendship, and companionship stop or love start? Or does it even need to when there is empathy.
I can’t tell you what love is.
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In the Brothers Karamazov, at the trial of Dmitri, the question is implied whether one has to love a parent who hasn’t cared for you just because he is your father?
You ask tough questions. I am clueless as to what love is and where it would begin if it does begin.
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You see, this is what frustrates me generally with Indians: they over-think things and come across as being desperately anal.
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At least they try to think. There are those who don’t think and that is why many die because of ignorance.
You must be enjoying the football extravaganza. I did like the opening ceremony and that is the closest have come to watching the games.
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I missed the opening 😦
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How is that? But you must be enjoying the games
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I was finding a home for a stray dog, terrified of the fireworks. Am about to do the same right now before the Brazil game. Dickheads around here love making noise.
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Well John, hopefully the DH’s aren’t making noise with AK 47’s, like the football — drug thugs video I shared with you.
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Ha! I was laughing about that just yesterday, saying these noise-making dicks probably watch the news and see the Muslims firing weapons in the air (in celebration) and think, “what stone age tossers.”
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LMAO —- you know it.
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Ah makes a lot of sense.
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There are various perspectives on “love.” Some see it as a singular emotional state which manifests itself in different ways. Some make distinctions with respect to compassion, empathy, kinship, loyalty, and romance. The former is typically feminine, while the latter is a more masculine view. For example, women equate sex with love more readily than men… at least in my experience.
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NeuroNotes would be quick to tell you it’s all about dopamine.
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Nope, not just dopamine. Oxytocin and vasopressin, too.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15006682
It’s about reward. You get rewarded to love, even when you make sacrifices, you are being rewarded, neurochemically.
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Interesting. Rewards and more rewards it seems
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Many don’t wants to look at it for what it is. That the fact that we are organic somehow lessens the meaning of love. But the reality is, without neurochemical rewards, we would have no incentive to eat, reproduce, be curious, create, etc. In other words, we’d cease to exist.
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I think for most people such an outlook, that we are biological automatons presents such a grim picture. To be told this they feel less human.
Yes, without rewards most if not all of us wouldn’t do a thing.
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“To be told this they feel less human.”
IMO — what they are really feeling is they are “less special” than the other species that share this planet.
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Less special. They must be at the pinnacle even with their hate!
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I should clarify — if it’s necessary — that by pointing out that they are organic beings — many (believers) take that as rather insulting and demeaning because they believe they are special — because their god created the planet for them.
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Ah- that god- the one that drowns almost everything in a rage fit and rejoices at the smell of roast meat.
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Yep — that’s the one. Doesn’t god give you the warm fuzzies?
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Warm fuzzies? with the promise of eternal fires, brimstone and sulphur and suffering
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Mmm hmm. But hey — god loves you.
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I volunteered to be in the group that would help kill god if one were to be found anywhere
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Geesh — well that means you will be wiping out about 84% of the human race. 😉
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it will do the human race a great good. At the end of the movie Perfume when the people have eaten the perfumer journeyman, the narrator says, for the first time in their lives they felt they had done something good for humanity and I think that is how I will feel 😀
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LOL
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And yes — the desire to only want sex without any desire to bond is about dopamine — like getting a heroin rush.
http://www.jneurosci.org/content/23/27/9185.abstract
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I should try heroine
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I’m sure you already have. 😉
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Well if you mean sex yes but heroine nope. Not even marijuana 🙂
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Well — it’s just that you wrote heroine (a woman of noble, courageous qualities). And well, we know that ejaculation is like a heroin rush, so ummm… oh, never mind. 😀
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Hahahaha! I will not say more.
Interesting way to put it
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*evil grin* I couldn’t let that one go. 😈
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🙂
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And therein lies the problem, that is, in its ambiguity, so to speak.
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