On what is morality founded?


morality is founded on man’s nature, needs, and interests. That without it they cannot be happy in whatever position they might find themselves. In a word, that it is in the interest of every man to be virtuous.[ Baron d’Holdbach in the Elements of Universal Morality]

 

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About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

27 thoughts on “On what is morality founded?

  1. aguywithoutboxers says:

    A great thought, except, of course, when applied to others and not to themselves. Thanks for sharing the quotation, my Nairobi brother! 🙂

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  2. On an individual level, morality is highly subjective and therefore quite disparate.

    On a societal level, morality is more objectively defined yet dependent upon cultural mores which vary across regions and peoples.

    My personal perspective on morality aligns with Jean-Jacques Rousseau who believed humans are naturally inclined towards compassion, and that aggressive forms of behavior must be learned. Consequently, the only moral doctrine I can support is the “Golden Rule.”

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    • makagutu says:

      We agree on all this Bob except I think all forms of behaviour are learned. We all have the capacity for peace or aggression, don’t you think?

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      • Yes, all behavior is learned. Rousseau looked deep into the natural state of human beings – a condition far removed from our typically complex societies. And, he had no shortage of detractors, most notably Thomas Hobbes (i.e. “Man is bad”).

        Perhaps his point about natural human compassion can be illustrated by the behavior of human infants. Put a few together in a room and watch what happens. They will cry, of course, when made uncomfortable. They will observe and explore new things. They will seek adult approval, return facial expressions in kind, and internalize the emotions of others. What you won’t see them do a lot is act out aggressively or violently. That behavior usually comes later in their development.

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  3. john zande says:

    Saw a meme yesterday: “What do you mean atheists don’t have morals? My morals are the ONLY thing stopping me from becoming a pastor and exploiting your gullibility for profit!”

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  4. Morality is whatever Jesus says it is. This is an objective truth. Those who don’t see the truth in this are wrong. Just ask Jesus.

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  5. Morality is highly personal don’t you thinK?

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  6. melouisef says:

    Yes unfortunately not every man has morality
    😦

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  7. archaeopteryx1 says:

    “If you ask anyone, what is morality based on? These are the two factors that always come out: One is reciprocity, … a sense of fairness, and the other one is empathy and compassion.”
    — Frans de Waal —

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  8. Sonel says:

    Love this! Thanks for sharing Mak. 😀

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  9. shelldigger says:

    Morality, the one thing religion claims to own exclusively, but fails to demonstrate. Well, they haven’t demonstrated any of their claims as of yet, but they will any day now!

    This atheist has a few morals. Have also had morels. One is good to have to get through life, the other breaded up and skillet fried is out of this world awesome! It has been too long since I have had them…mmm.

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    • makagutu says:

      We should not hold our breath in anticipation that they will make any demonstrations. They prefer to fire and hide like guerrillas.

      Next time you make morsels? Invite the brother.

      Always happy to see you.

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  10. shelldigger says:

    A morel is a wild mushroom that looks like a tall lanky sponge thingy. As a kid we would walk the woods when it was time, and harvest what we found. Often this would be when we visited grandma’s farm in Iowa. She would soak them in saltwater for a bit, to kill off any little critters that might be in them, then slice em up. Then dip them in batter and fry em up. If there is anything on this earth that will get you as close to what passes for heaven, it is fresh out of the skillet batter dipped and fried morels.

    That part of the family has passed on, the farm long gone, all I have left is the memories, and the desire for another plate of morels. If I ever get there, you are the first guy I will call. 🙂

    They just do not grow here where I live now, or I would be heading for the woods with a bag.

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