we assert, and correctly so


that a perfect Christian, who conforms to all the principles of his religion, who faithfully imitates the divine men proposed to him as a model, and practices their austerities in solitude, or carries their fanatic enthusiasm and bigotry into society, must be either useless to mankind, or a troublesome and dangerous citizen

d’Holdbach in Christianity Unveiled

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

95 thoughts on “we assert, and correctly so

  1. Well yes, and you are expecting an argument?

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  2. john zande says:

    A dangerous citizen, indeed! Useless in the defense of society, a retardant to growth, an enemy to science, and a parasite on resources.

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  3. themodernidiot says:

    The perfect Christian wouldn’t follow a religion at all lol

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    • makagutu says:

      the only christian if he existed, died on the cross. The rest are pretenders to the title

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      • themodernidiot says:

        High five

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      • themodernidiot says:

        Ooh, that reminds me; here’s a post for you to start: the mainstream idea is JC died on the cross, but from a lack of air, not bleeding from his wounds. The Jehova’s Witnesses posit that there was no cross because one cannot suffocate on a cross. However one can suffocate if one’s hands are above the head, in line with the body, on a pole. And discuss.

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        • makagutu says:

          I like the no Jesus story more, no rationalizations needed but I should follow this line and see where it leads.

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          • themodernidiot says:

            I’d be curious to hear what your minions think 😉

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          • I’m becoming a fast believer in the “no Jesus” theory myself. If the entire pantheon of Greek Myth can be just “made up” stories, why not the bible too? No difference.

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          • I agree Jeff. I mean, come on — couldn’t these guys be a little more original?

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          • And creative. I mean, Greek and Norse mythology are AWESOME fun stuff to read. The bible is about as exciting as watching maple syrup drip out of a tree in midwinter. BORING!!!

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          • Couldn’t agree more. I am always amazed that people find the bible so interesting. I studied, and studied and studied and kept trying to figure out why people were so into this. They make it seem like you have to have special powers, i.e., holy spirit, to “get it”. Well, that is pure bullshit. Just a tactic that gets you to repeat the reading over and over (“study to show thyself approved” or telling you to “hide the word in your heart), memorizing scripture, thus rewiring your brain to be obedient. I was duped once, but I will never be duped again.

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          • The bible writers, both the new and old testament ones, really needed to take a rudimentary level creative writing class. The bible sucks from a literary perspective. If not for the fear too many knuckle-heads have of hell, damnation, and torture for not believing it is real stuff, no one would read it. Odin, Zeus, and Loki are a lot more fun and have much better tales written about them than Jeebus, Moobus, and Arkraham.

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          • When I was a kid, I loved mythology. But then I got sent to Catholic school and I was brainwashed into believing that it was “sinful”. Well, now I know why they said that. I may not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I’m not stupid, either. I was simply too trusting of authority. It was pounded in me early on by adult-size hammers.

            But I will say that the writers were cleaver. They may have not known the actual neural mechanisms at work, but they were keen observers. At first, the Catholic hierarchy forbid people from reading the bible, but later figure out that if they encourage them to do so they will self-wire — self-program — self-indoctrinate — self-brainwash.

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          • I agree. I was taught by Catholic nuns who operated under the motto, “Resistance is futile.” They had it long before the Borg in Star Trek ever did.

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          • It was a win, win for the RCC and Protestants bought into it, hook,line and sinker and took it to another level.

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          • makagutu says:

            Good point. The Homeric stories are very great

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          • makagutu says:

            That should not happen again. The first time you were fed it the second time if you buy it you take yourself to an asylum

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          • makagutu says:

            The bible is so boring, I think they didn’t intend to have it read in one seating

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          • makagutu says:

            Why do we make special pleading for these charlatans and not Homer?

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          • themodernidiot says:

            Good point

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          • makagutu says:

            Why is the bible and Koran treated with so much difference. Who says the Gita didn’t come from the only god?

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  5. aguywithoutboxers says:

    Unfortunately, we have a plethora of living contemporaries who prove your point, my friend! They seem to multiply daily! Much love and naked hugs! 🙂

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  6. “a perfect Christian” is an oxymoron – that is, a contradiction of terms.

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  7. shelldigger says:

    What? You mean we AREN’T supposed to kill our kids if they turn their backs on the dog? Pardon me whilst I go look for a shovel, and start working on an alibi.

    Just kidding folks! Just kidding…but to think that people actually believe this kind of shit is scary…and I don’t want to hear any of that turn the other cheek shit till the biblical (we ain’t even talking about ISIL types yet) cold blooded murders and genocides are addressed.

    A TRUE X-ian, that follows all of his good books commands would be one evil sumbitch. But great in the eyes of the dog. Go figure…

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    • makagutu says:

      We cannot be accused of no true scotsman fallacy on this one. They don’t follow their good book, if they did, they would be wearing rugs, separated from family and friends and never in a position to resist any wrongs

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  8. ladysighs says:

    “must be either useless to mankind, or a troublesome and dangerous citizen”
    I think you meant to say this:
    ” must be both useless to mankind and a troublesome and dangerous citizen”

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    • makagutu says:

      You know am so happy to see you! Did you get my email?
      I agree: both useless and dangerous to society

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      • ladysighs says:

        No, didn’t get any email. I subscribe to your blog…but just read what comes into the email.. Haven’t been reading any blogs for months. Just left WP for a while. Trying to resolve some feelings/thoughts and that takes time.
        Keep up the good work. 🙂

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        • makagutu says:

          Been a while. Last time I wrote was April and since then I have not your lovely self. How time flies so fast.
          Be of good cheer dear friend, and I hope you get to resolve the issues sooner.
          Big hugs

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