that a perfect Christian, who conforms to all the principles of his religion, who faithfully imitates the divine men proposed to him as a model, and practices their austerities in solitude, or carries their fanatic enthusiasm and bigotry into society, must be either useless to mankind, or a troublesome and dangerous citizen
d’Holdbach in Christianity Unveiled
Well yes, and you are expecting an argument?
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LOL
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Not on this point.
A christian may disagree though
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A dangerous citizen, indeed! Useless in the defense of society, a retardant to growth, an enemy to science, and a parasite on resources.
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they live, especially their priests, on the labours of honest men.
People should read d’Holdbach
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Like a virus. Jeff turned me on to this book: “The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture” by Darrel Ray. Haven’t read the book yet, but his lecture was excellent.
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That is a good book. And this is a post I agree with. I dislike the christian B.S. more than other religious B.S. cause that’s the one dangled in my face the most. Really irritates me. BTW, I’m working on a post about Spiderman and Superman and how they actually are NOT based on real people. Ain’t that shocking?
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More than shocking. Looking forward to that post.
This is truly a good book
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What Noel said — looking forward to reading your post, and thank you for the inspiration you gave me the other day for mine.
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Amen, Sister Victoria. Amen.
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Praise the lard, brother Jeff, praise the lard.
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Hallelujah!
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I will look for the book. Sounds like a good book
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It is. I really enjoyed it.
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I will try and find a copy soon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETvh9XUKqbk Here’s a video link to the author speaking on how religion is like an infectious disease.
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Yeah, but they do a good Christmas tree
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Great point.
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True, just as Jesus requested! 🙂
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Jesus and his step-father, Joe, had a lot they used to sell Christmas trees out of back in the day. It was called, The Anachronistic Christmas Tree Lot. Heard JC made a wicked fruit cake too.
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The kind that keeps through Nuclear Winters?
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Actually, if you don’t handle the trees right, they could cause a nuclear winter. don’t ask me how, I’m not a physicist. Well, not yet anyway.
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I thought you had a Nobel as a physicist too?
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I do. I forgot about that one. Thanks for reminding me. You’re a good friend.
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Oh, you are a good friend too
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Haha “No Jesus, I wanna do it. Let meeee put the angel on top. You can do it next year.”
“No Judas. Here’s thirty pieces of divinity; go play with the others.”
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Jesus will not be happy about this
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Is he ever happy about ANYTHING? The dude is a friggin’ bummer, man. I say christians should drop his ass and start worshiping Thor. He’s got a bad ass hammer and he’s an Avenger. He’s cool. JC isn’t.
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His followers say he wept no where do they say he smiled or laughed. This dude was sad
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Jesus is an underachiever.
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Now you have just crossed the line 😀
The dude could walk on water or calm a hurricane and since then men have died in their homes because of hurricanes immediately after they said prayers to be kept safe.
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Son of God couldn’t get a better PR Deparrtment? Shame
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What do you except from a PR dept run by fishermen and low lifes? The son of god did not like the company of smarts.
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The elite? The scholars? How simply blasé. So much more colorful to dwell among the hustlers and the whores.
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As company they are the best, as biographers am not sure
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Can’t say as I trust the scholars as truth tellers much either haha
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Hahaha.
I agree with you
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😀
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was that before or after the war on Christmas?
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War on Christmas. What a bunch of idiots. This country PUKES Christmas all over the globe. What a joke.
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War on christmas, war on traditional marriage, and I cant wait for war on easter. I like the one already on creationism
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I want to start a war on idiocy. Would you like to be one of my generals?
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Oh yes, count me in
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You’re in, pal.
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What will be my role? When do I start?
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You’re in charge of trowing rubber chickens at idiots and you start as soon as the crate of 6000 rubber chickens I sent you arrives at your home.
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Jeff, I see you can’t sleep either? I’m working on another post explaining why I can’t sleep. 😀
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Is it because you are thinking of me or is there another reason you can’t sleep?
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Both. 😀
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If you are missing me just call 🙂 you know where to find me
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Thank you Noel. 🙂 I am trying to wrap up this post so I can get to bed. You’ll have to wait ’til the morning, my time to find out the other reason why I can’t sleep. *grins*
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It is morning now, why could you not sleep
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I was worried the rubber chickens would get lost in the mail.
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I always have sleep trouble. You too? We gotta talk.
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Ah cool. Will I be arrested for being hard on idiots?
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Not if you can run away before they catch you.
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I want a war on war. Enough with the two-solution system for an infinite possibility world
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War on war it is.
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I’d help out, but I’m still fighting the war on drugs that Ronald Reagan started back in the 80’s. Still haven’t won it.
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The perfect Christian wouldn’t follow a religion at all lol
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the only christian if he existed, died on the cross. The rest are pretenders to the title
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High five
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Hi good friend, wishing you a pleasant day/ evening
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And thank you. Hoping for you a beautiful day as well 🙂
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Ooh, that reminds me; here’s a post for you to start: the mainstream idea is JC died on the cross, but from a lack of air, not bleeding from his wounds. The Jehova’s Witnesses posit that there was no cross because one cannot suffocate on a cross. However one can suffocate if one’s hands are above the head, in line with the body, on a pole. And discuss.
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I like the no Jesus story more, no rationalizations needed but I should follow this line and see where it leads.
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I’d be curious to hear what your minions think 😉
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I’m becoming a fast believer in the “no Jesus” theory myself. If the entire pantheon of Greek Myth can be just “made up” stories, why not the bible too? No difference.
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I agree Jeff. I mean, come on — couldn’t these guys be a little more original?
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And creative. I mean, Greek and Norse mythology are AWESOME fun stuff to read. The bible is about as exciting as watching maple syrup drip out of a tree in midwinter. BORING!!!
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Couldn’t agree more. I am always amazed that people find the bible so interesting. I studied, and studied and studied and kept trying to figure out why people were so into this. They make it seem like you have to have special powers, i.e., holy spirit, to “get it”. Well, that is pure bullshit. Just a tactic that gets you to repeat the reading over and over (“study to show thyself approved” or telling you to “hide the word in your heart), memorizing scripture, thus rewiring your brain to be obedient. I was duped once, but I will never be duped again.
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The bible writers, both the new and old testament ones, really needed to take a rudimentary level creative writing class. The bible sucks from a literary perspective. If not for the fear too many knuckle-heads have of hell, damnation, and torture for not believing it is real stuff, no one would read it. Odin, Zeus, and Loki are a lot more fun and have much better tales written about them than Jeebus, Moobus, and Arkraham.
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When I was a kid, I loved mythology. But then I got sent to Catholic school and I was brainwashed into believing that it was “sinful”. Well, now I know why they said that. I may not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I’m not stupid, either. I was simply too trusting of authority. It was pounded in me early on by adult-size hammers.
But I will say that the writers were cleaver. They may have not known the actual neural mechanisms at work, but they were keen observers. At first, the Catholic hierarchy forbid people from reading the bible, but later figure out that if they encourage them to do so they will self-wire — self-program — self-indoctrinate — self-brainwash.
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I agree. I was taught by Catholic nuns who operated under the motto, “Resistance is futile.” They had it long before the Borg in Star Trek ever did.
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It was a win, win for the RCC and Protestants bought into it, hook,line and sinker and took it to another level.
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Good point. The Homeric stories are very great
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That should not happen again. The first time you were fed it the second time if you buy it you take yourself to an asylum
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The bible is so boring, I think they didn’t intend to have it read in one seating
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Why do we make special pleading for these charlatans and not Homer?
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Good point
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Why is the bible and Koran treated with so much difference. Who says the Gita didn’t come from the only god?
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cheers man
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Unfortunately, we have a plethora of living contemporaries who prove your point, my friend! They seem to multiply daily! Much love and naked hugs! 🙂
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Much love, much love. Those are not true to their religion
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“a perfect Christian” is an oxymoron – that is, a contradiction of terms.
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You are right on that. They can’t agree among themselves who is the True Christian
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What? You mean we AREN’T supposed to kill our kids if they turn their backs on the dog? Pardon me whilst I go look for a shovel, and start working on an alibi.
Just kidding folks! Just kidding…but to think that people actually believe this kind of shit is scary…and I don’t want to hear any of that turn the other cheek shit till the biblical (we ain’t even talking about ISIL types yet) cold blooded murders and genocides are addressed.
A TRUE X-ian, that follows all of his good books commands would be one evil sumbitch. But great in the eyes of the dog. Go figure…
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We cannot be accused of no true scotsman fallacy on this one. They don’t follow their good book, if they did, they would be wearing rugs, separated from family and friends and never in a position to resist any wrongs
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“must be either useless to mankind, or a troublesome and dangerous citizen”
I think you meant to say this:
” must be both useless to mankind and a troublesome and dangerous citizen”
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You know am so happy to see you! Did you get my email?
I agree: both useless and dangerous to society
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No, didn’t get any email. I subscribe to your blog…but just read what comes into the email.. Haven’t been reading any blogs for months. Just left WP for a while. Trying to resolve some feelings/thoughts and that takes time.
Keep up the good work. 🙂
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Been a while. Last time I wrote was April and since then I have not your lovely self. How time flies so fast.
Be of good cheer dear friend, and I hope you get to resolve the issues sooner.
Big hugs
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