who admits there are times he has doubts about god but he is certain of Jesus H. Christ.
He is the venerable Archbishop of Canterbury otherwise known as the nominal head of the C of E and its several million followers around the world.
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Over my lifetime there have been several clerics for whom I’ve had a great deal of time. Whatever their beliefs, their humanity has been impressive. And anyone who has doubts and says so is generally likely to be a ‘good egg’. It’s the blind-faithers who cause the mayhem.
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My interaction with clerics have been far and far between and the ones I have had a good time with, were the ones who would visit my uncle for a drink and there was no theology being discussed.
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“He also said that Christians cannot explain why suffering exists in the world but that the answer was faith.” Excellent answer. Faith. It’s such a great thing to say you have. We need to honor people of “faith” and give great reverence to them for admitting they possess it. Thus, when “faith” in the divine word of one’s creator compels them to fly commercial jetliners into high rise buildings causing the death of 3000 people, we should give them a thunderous round of applause for having “faith.” Right. Bull. This preacher sounds like he’s a decent man, but he’s not a decent man because of his preacher status nor because of his “faith”. He’s a decent man because he’s a decent man. This bullshit about “faith” being an admirable trait is harmful, illogical, and false. We make up who we are, not belief in invisible silliness. “Faith” in invisible guys is not something I want my Government leaders running my country on.
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Well said.
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Thanks for the show of faith, brother. 😀
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Hahaha
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It would be more honest to say they can’t explain why and leave it at that. To defer to faith as an answer is a great cop out. I too do not like to hear government operatives telling me they have faith something is gonna happen while they do nothing.
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Especially when it’s faith to “god” they differ to and people thunderously applaud them for it. Why not praise ISIS then? Are they not acting out of their “faith”? If faith alone is honorable, then those dudes in ISIS exude it out of every pore in their bodies. It is a specific faith politicians and christians bible thumpers claim is good: theirs. All others, in their eyes, do not count as real faiths. How then does this differ from ISIS? It differs not at all. Judging and damning others then saying you do it out of faith is cowardly, weak, and primitive. The christians who condemn gay people because they claim their faith tells them to, must condone what ISIS does. It is either admirable and applaudable to do things based on solely on faith or it is not. It can not be OK to applaud faith only when it is your own. Faith is either an admirable thing to have or it isn’t. I say, it is not.
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That faith in god is seen as a virtue and going to church religiously as an important civic/ social duty is annoying. To treat one faith as being better or different to another can’t hold. Whether it is ISIS or is it ISIL or christian, it is faith in unevidenced things that is the problem we must contend with.
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I agree.
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I’m confused. If you doubt the existence of the god of the Pentateuch, how on earth can you be happy in Jesus? If the man existed, which i doubt, he was, quite evidently, just another mystic.
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Though I’ve heard he made a banana bread to die for! Probable the thing that made ’em famous.
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Ah, makes sense
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Uhm, no, he was quite evidently a lunatic who spent a little time with some travellers from the far east and thought the world was going to end very soon. That eastern religion has some good parts but the world is going to end soon.
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A. Hirsi said it well when she said Islam and by extension the Abrahamic religions are cults of death.
Nietzsche said christianity is a denial of life. The world is ending soon and was created several years after the Sumerians had been busy doing thing for quite a while.
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The person that can say that Christianity is not a death cult can only be one who is caught un in the cult themselves.
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I have met many who think because it promises eternal life in a netherworld it isn’t a death cult
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There in lies the problem. Jesus they say was the son of god and if one has doubts about god, they must, as you say be ready to admit they think Jesus a random preacher man
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Some serious mental gymnastics going on there, me suspects.
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that is what it takes to be religious. mental gymnastics
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At least, as a leader, he admits he has doubts. Can you imagine some of these radical extremists even entertaining that admission? Of course not! They want every ill-begotten coin and bill they can get their greedy hands on! Great insight, my Nairobi brother! 😉
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That is quite an honest man we have right there. If he could only entertain doubt for longer, he would say to hell with the church and its vestmensts
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I read this article on news site earlier today, and I had the same thoughts as John. If Jesus is god, how in the hay does he have doubts about god, but not Jesus?
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The preacher man isn’t referring to Jesus the deity in the article, he’s referring to Jesus the Mexican cook from whom he buys burritos. I hope this has cleared up any confusion you may have over the issue. Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow. 😀
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All issues are cleared. Have a pleasant day/ evening
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My kind of Jesus. Mmmmm
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The Jesus to toast to
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Yes, indeed, my friend.
Cheers and have a fantastical weekend!
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You too have a fantastic weekend and in the spirit of friendship I will tell you what happens in the future 😀
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I look forward to it. 😉
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Can you tell me my future too, please? Will I ever get to be king of Scotland? I’ve wanted that job for ever since I saw “Brave Heart” back in the 90’s.
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Hahahaha, I will let you know what happens in the future. Just keep heart
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So Jeff, you’re into
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You had t right the first time: skirts. I look absolutely stunning in a red knee high dress, black pumps, and come-hither-big-boy fake eyelashes.
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You are such a naughty deity.
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Indeed I am.
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Aren’t most of them naughty?
Sleep with virgins, confuse men’s languages and disturb their work among other things if they aren’t busy hardening their hearts?
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Right you are.
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I’m currently sleeping with 67 virgins, and I’ve given every family in a ten mile radius of my home a separate language just to f*ck with ’em. AND I did it all dressed as as 52 year old Hungarian hooker named Cybele.
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Hahaha. You would make a naughty and nasty deity
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I’m naughty now, and I’m not even a deity. Yet.
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Jesus’ burritos are good, but his tacos are to die for!
I was confused reading this thread, but this has cleared it up for me – and made me hungry.
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That’s why I’m here. To clear up the confusion of religious topics by relating them all back to the fundamental goodness of Mexican cooking.
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Jesus is god son of Mary and YHWH well is another god. I am confused too
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Technically, the head of the Church of England is the monarch, currently Elizabeth II. That’s really important when understanding the complex ways the CoE is integrated into English culture, law and politics. It is not simply a dominant church of the nation, it is *the* church of the nation, all others technically allowed through forbearance and laws establishing toleration. If the monarch ever took it upon herself to engage in theology and claim divine inspiration, England would default into a theocracy (although I am sure this would not be allowed, since the monarch has little direct authority).
It is rather amusing and disappointing to recognize how archaic the situation is, and many British critics have grumbled about it.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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But he added: “It is not about feelings, it is about the fact that God is faithful and the extraordinary thing about being a Christian is that God is faithful when we are not.”
I sure wonder what the good Archbishop’s definition of faithful is.
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Am sure it does not mean the same thing when we use the word faithful
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Or when ISIS uses it.
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“I sure wonder what the good Archbishop’s definition of faithful is.”
Ladysighs, exactly. He questions god because god is no where to be found, yet the Archbishop sees this god as being faithful. Just boggles my mind. IMO, he no longer believes, period, but needs the job.
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People are made strange. He has come to the point where he realizes god must be in his mind and he still holds onto the chimera. He should just say fuck the job, I don’t believe this shit no more.
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That would take courage—bravery, and forthrightness, and I’ve seen little of that within these ranks.
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You are 102% right on that. It is a step of courage and unparalleled honesty to come out and say I can no longer hold this job, my conscience wouldn’t allow me to
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Missed this, sorry. It’s a top job, not one to quit in a hurry. But as you advance up the eschelons of power, don’t any principle and ethics get left behind?
Either way, the story in the Telegraph didn’t really hang together. Poor reporting or religious doubts? Who knows?
I had a great pal who was a minister. I could never understand why he was. He went to join the army (automatic ranking as a captain) and we lost touch after that 😦
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When you ask about poor reporting, it reminds me of the discussion we have been having on the current standard of journalism.
It is difficult to understand why some become ministers or why some stay. I think it brings food to the table, just maybe.
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Current standard of journalism? You mean there is a standard for journalism besides sleazy, shifty, and unethical? 😀
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No, just what you have described
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i know you knew that. I was just being a smart ass. I’m good at that.
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