This eureka moment is essentially about the Abrahamic religions but could apply to any religion that has a devil. The christian, the Muslim and the Jew believe they worship an all powerful god. They also believe there is a devil who tempts them to do things against an all powerful god. The Jews are waiting for the messiah to come back. Mohammed said he is the last prophet, so the Muslims can wait for heaven. The Christians had god coming down to commit suicide to save them.
With that introduction, it occurred to me all the believers should to ask god once and for all time to just kill the devil. In fact, this is what god should have done instead of sending Adam and Eve packing from the garden. Had this god done this, we would have had no need for Noah’s ark, for destruction of Sodom and no need for vicarious redemption. I see no reason why an all powerful and loving god wouldn’t effect this simple request from its billion plus believers. The religious will not need to pray anymore since no one will be tempting them anymore.
That there, my friends, is my great eureka moment.
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Great idea! We can get the ball rolling by emailing the Pope and getting the catholics in their billions on board. ๐
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That should be a big step to making the world free of temptations.
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It will be a great relief not to be tempted to murder and lie once the devil is defeated. Phew
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And we can get on living peaceful lives. It will be heaven on earth. No temptations and the excuse the devil made me do it will no longer be admissible. Maybe they will now be saying god made me do it.
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Funny thing is: they already say that!
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In the email, could you perhaps also ask him why, if Jesus’ suicide mission was a success, didn’t anything change on earth?
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Things changed, there are more devils since his suicide mission
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Too true!
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Give him/her a nudge and tell him/her to just get on with his/her sorry life.
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We are trying to help believers here. If the god is not willing to kill the devil at least it could move him to a different galaxy
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Yes, a galaxy that is far far far far away.
But I think let him come back every Halloween for old times sake. ๐
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I don’t think the devil would object to such a compromise
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But if they don’t have the Devil (The Deceiver, Abaddon, Baphomet, Apollyon, Iblis, Beast, Angra Mainyu, The Father of Lies, The Author of Sin, Druj, Samnu, Mammon, Yen-lo-Wangand, and The Great Spoiler) then there’s no reason for earth and their entire religion collapses.
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If we had no bad, our goodness would be pointless; we would be irrelevant. Good only matters in the presence of bad. To have life without contrast isn’t much of a life.
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I sure like this argument. No one should complain about evil. It is necessary for life which I agree with anyway
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I wish it werent.
What i find interesting, is the same random violence occurs in non human life; but it is seen as a natiral process there, not in terms of evil or good. Only human existence is categorized that way. It makes me wonder if good or evil exist st all. I cant see that they do.
Our unspeakable horrors only shock us. Religion seems to be a way to put our natural state of violence into some kind of graspable terms.
If we are supposedly superior to animals, then it isnt in our ability to use tools or read; it seems to me, it is our ability to introspect, and of course all that encompasses: regret, judgment, labels, etc.
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Whenever we point out that, the accusation is thrown immediately at us that we are immoral for pointing it out.
Human are superior because humans say they are. Silly little things we are
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‘Life without contrast isn’t much of a life’. Well, this is mere assumption, isn’t it? Sort of a meme that gets free passage without critical examination. Why do I say this? Simply because it has not been possible to conduct an experiment comparing 2 life environments, one of which has contrast, and the other lacks it. With no possibility of falsification, the saying is merely a meme. I particularly have disdain for the meme because apologists lean on it in their pathetic theodicities.
As for me, I can well do without the contrast between, e. g., health and cancer. Maybe a hybrid world, where there is enough contrast to pique curiosity and initiative and not enough to cause pain? Yeah, that sounds like the ticket.
Not trying to be argumentative, just tossing out what the meme evokes for me.
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I see your point and agree with it. In fact god could in his impotence have different degrees of good. A lion does not have to kill an antelope to live. Though I hear those who advocate for plant rights say the antelope also shouldn’t eat shrubs to live, that a good and powerful god should have thought of all dietary needs without having recourse to murder.
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Exrelayman: my comment was a comment of good intention and thoughts for my good and beloved friend. Your comment was unfounded and, frankly, snotty regardless of the backpedal you added at the end. However, it is a nice bit of contrast that makes it all interesting.
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But contrast does not require evil. There is a contrast between rocky road and vanilla… no evil there. The same goes for satan. Remember life was good for Adam and Eve without the satan. Adding more contrast didn’t improve the quality of life.
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Listen, Pal. If god whacked me, that would suck for me. Just cause I’m the devil, doesn’t mean I don’t deserve to live. Are you a devilphobe? Do you have “devilphobia”? Are you prejudiced against little ole me? Why? Hath not the devil eyes, hands, a mouth, extremities? If you prick me, will I not bleed? (OK, maybe I won’t bleed, cause I’m a spirit, but pricking me would still hurt, so don’t). Do I not deserve to exist? Actually, do I exist? If not, I apologize for my rant. Now, please go on with your day and remember, be nice to bad people. They’re only bad cause I’m making them act that way. $Amen$ P.S. If you see god, tell that cheap SOB it’s his turn to buy dinner next weekend. He has convenient memory lapses every time he has to spend money on me. The bastard.
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I apologise sincerely for not taking the feelings of the devil into consideration
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Thanks. And great post, BTW.
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Thanks mate
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Such a simple solution to such a cosmic complexity. Just think of all the lives that would have been saved because there was no need for religious persecution nor sacred wars. Excellent thought, my Nairobi brother. ๐ Thank you, buddy!
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You agree this is a real eureka moment? Can god now just put the problem to rest and let us live happy lives
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If, indeed, he has that capacity! )
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I think your ancestors where a bit wiser in this respect. The sudanic religious tradition, widespread among peoples of the Nilo-Saharan language family, is a pure monotheism without a devil.
The West-African tradition also does not have a devil. There is a creator god who creates the world and then does not seem to mingle into affairs much again.
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When the colonialist came with his god, he left us with such a confused idea of deity. Before all we had to do was appease the spirits of the dead and all would be well. There was no punishment in the netherworld.
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That sounds like such a better religion. If ya gotta have one at all, that is.
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Oh yes, it is
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I must say, upon rereading this fine post, sir, I find your eureka moment to not only be brilliant, but truly inspiring. The Golden Boot thanks you for writing it. There are no devils in Golden Boot worship, only sore asses on stupid people. $Amen$
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Thank you my friend and that is why I am a missionary for the Golden Boot
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The modern idiot touched on my views. The immediate counter argument from the religious lot would be all about how the devil is there to show us what sinners we are, lead us into temptation and turn us away from the one true path. We need this, see, to show us how loving, forgiving and all-embracing the One True God is. And then we reject the naughty fun loving devil to turn towards the Light and our Saviour for eternity. Because we have known and seen sin, recognised it and acknowledged it within ourselves.
The whole god thing wouldn’t be much without that would it. Who’d want to be saved if there was nothing to be saved from?
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An all forgiving god would not need vicarious redemption, would it?
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indeed.
However, the problem is that this god evidently needs his devil. If we don’t have the devil, then we don’t have this god getting his jollies off on killing more people. We have this god required to let his supposed arch enemy loose. What requires this? Then this evil entity gets to corrupt more people *after* this god/its son rules over the kingdom of heaven on earth for some long time.
It’s like finding out that James Bond really did work for SPECTRE or that Bruce Wayne bankrolled everyone in Arkham Asylum.
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Religious beliefs need the devil to survive. Even in the garden of Eden, the devil was reportedly there, in the form of a talking snake. Without the devil, religions wouldn’t have a foundation to exist upon. After all, there would be no way of convincing sheeple that they need some sort of “salvation” or some such bull.
Given the above, practically any other suggestion can be considered by a religiot, but this very simple and elegant solution of simply annihilating the devil will never fly. Killing the devil would mean killing religious thought. No religiot would ever contend with such a proposal.
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So you are saying my eureka moment cannot see light of day ๐
You are right Joe, without god’s alter ego, any religion based on scapegoating has no chance
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Well said Mak and I totally agree with you! I love these ‘eureka moments’ you have. Wish I could have one! ๐
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Hahaha dear. If they become many, I will see how I can make money through them
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hahaha! You go then! ๐
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Thanks dear
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Makagutu…
“All the believers should to ask god once and for all time to just kill the devil… The religious will not need to pray anymore since no one will be tempting them anymore”…
Eureka my friend that was extremely conclusive…Whence, logically irrefutable!!!.
I much enjoyed your post!. โญ
All the best to you, Aquileana ๐
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Thank you my dear. You know am always happy to see you.
I have been told this will not wash with the religious. The devil must exist or at least its servants.
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“The devil must exist or at least its servants”.
Indeed, dear Makagutu… And some of them meet in Church as did the leaders of the SS in Germany and the members of the AAA in Argentina!.
Best wishes, Aquileana ๐
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Best wishes too. And before that I think they Inquisitors. They are always around us
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All this philosophical commenting has my head spinning. Which only begs to ask the timeless question: Did god create us before or after we created him?
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Haha. It can only be after. We created him then we had him create us
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Question:
If god created the angel turned devil, purposefully allowing him to do what he does ever since, and created humans in his own very image, and mankind did what it did ever since, who exactly and truly is this “good” god who needed an infinitely wicked being and the assassination of his own son onto the eternal perfection of some and eternal torture of others?
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Brother, am glad to see you here, it has been such a long time. I do hope you and yours are all well.
Blimey if I know who the good god is.
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There seem to be no good god after all, and if any, it’s worse than the sum of all evil…
Been worse, been better, but alive nevertheless ๐
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You really are right.
Glad to know you are alive
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