the 10 commandments of atheists


I guess you have heard of the international contest where atheists were to offer modern alternatives to the famous Decalogue. A panel of judges selected what they felt were the ten winning entries. This post isn’t really about the creative exercise but about those theists like Ken Ham and others who seem angered that atheists could actually conceive of making commandments, the reserve of their god!

One would expect that since each entry has an explanation given by the author, the theist would at least read to understand but then it seems that is expecting too much.

The OP tells us these two

#9. There is no one right way to live.

#10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.

(non) commands are not only entirely baseless and indefensible on atheism, but are actually contradictory.

Our task here is to see whether this is the case. It has become apparent that most theists have the understanding of a roast potato. Atheism is a lack of belief in deities. To make it mean much more than this is to ask for too much and it will not hold. The statement that the above are indefensible in atheism is true not in the way intended by this theist but because atheism makes no claims.

The theist wants us to believe that the statement there is no one right way to live is a meaningless statement. But is it? What comes to mind is , is there one right way of being a christian? Is the asceticism the right one or is it being a monk, priest, nun or married? As there are different people and different interests, there cannot be any one right way to live.

To say live the world a better place doesn’t restrict you to one way of living. Struggle for freedom of expression in a place where this is prohibited leaves the world better than you found it especially if these fruits are achieved. There is no contradiction that ensues between 9 & 10 and if there is, kindly show me.

How such a creative exercise is reducible to

This sums up the entire exercise. Without God, there is no meaning and purpose to our existence. Without meaning and purpose, we can’t fail to reach out goal, and we can’t fulfill our purpose, because none exists.

is beyond my understanding. The theist having been fed by his pastor that he needs god to have meaning in his life and because he is unable to think for himself accepts this as a truth and lives his life with such belief. Anyone who doesn’t believe as he does is doing it wrong.

To argue that something is true because it appears in the buybull is to me evidence of how poorly one thinks. With such an argument, anything that appears in a book is true because it is written. How silly!

If he was trying his hand at ridicule, he failed, if at criticism he didn’t even make a dent. Atheists and any non believer has every right to creative endeavours, of which this was one. To throw tantrums at this is unreasonable.

 

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82 thoughts on “the 10 commandments of atheists

  1. “Without God, there is no meaning and purpose to our existence.” What an idiotic, ignorant statement. Without which god do our lives have no purpose? Jesus, Allah, or any one of the the millions of Hindu gods? Which? The TruChristian says his god; the TruMuslim, his. The followers of Loki say it’s him. I say, the very nature of multiple faiths is empirical evidence that there is no “right” way to live, not even within a certain faith; thus, we have 78 sects of Christianity, each claiming theirs is the objectively “true” form of that faith. Brother, I truly am weary of theists and their bullshit. Slimey, weaselly, double standard holding asses. $Amen$

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  2. “This sums up the entire exercise. Without God, there is no meaning and purpose to our existence.”

    Noel, your post and what you quoted reminded me of a movie I watched this past week. As you are aware, I just recently moved out of state. Because I didn’t have internet access (just got it yesterday *does happy dance*, I borrowed some videos from my parents to pass the time, as my books were still packed. One movie, titled “The Other Side of Heaven” was a Disney movie so I wasn’t expecting it to be religious. Turns out it was about a farm kid from Idaho Falls who became a missionary in the remote Tongan islands during the 1950’s. It was based on a true story. Here’s what the main character in the movie stated:

    “There is a connection between heaven and earth. Finding that connection gives meaning to everything, including death. Losing that connection makes everything lose meaning, including life.”

    Sigh. It really is disheartening to realize that most believers feel they have no purpose or meaning in life without a deity and hope for an afterlife.

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    • makagutu says:

      why can’t they just go to heaven already

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      • LOL — if they did would they not tire from worshiping at the feet of Jesus for eternity? Can you imagine living such a life? Can you imagine that the purpose of all this suffering on earth was to worship God for eternity? Is their god not narcissistic? What human, in their right mind, would think these expectations are normal, healthy behavior?

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        • makagutu says:

          That is the purpose and meaning of life, to sing hallelujah amen till kingdom come and you are wrong and confused if you can’t see this.
          Believers in my view are a mad lot

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          • Just goes to show you the power of indoctrination — that people can so easily be convince that this is a worthy goal to strive for. The movie was a classic case of madness. The main character experiences all kinds of hardships as a missionary, including almost starving to death, and was fully convinced that this was in his best interest. Just mind-boggling to me.

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          • makagutu says:

            The strange thing is they find nothing odd with such a life. Then they have the audacity to call atheists lives meaningless because we are not headed that way

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  3. Here’s the complete “Ten Non-Commandments:”

    1. Be open-minded and be willing to alter your beliefs with new evidence.
    2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true.
    3. The scientific method is the most reliable way of understanding the natural world.
    4. Every person has the right to control of their body.
    5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life.
    6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them.
    7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective.
    8. We have the responsibility to consider others, including future generations.
    9. There is no one right way to live.
    10. Leave the world a better place than you found it.

    Although I wholeheartedly agree with and support all of these precepts, I really have to wonder about what’s going on here. When you write down a set of rules for people to follow, which are neither legal nor secular, you are in effect creating a religious philosophy. Was that their intent, to establish an atheist religion? I thought atheists were opposed to religion. It also appears to contradict Non-Commandment #9, that “there is no one right way to live.”

    Would somebody please explain this to me. I’m confused!

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    • makagutu says:

      Don’t be confused any longer. The authors of the book were doing crowd sourcing of what the ten commandments would have been had Moses consulted so to speak. And I don’t think they jury or even those behind the contest want to establish a religious philosophy. Besides the ten were chosen among a list of more than 2K entries. A different group could come with a different set. I linked the page that has all the entries

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      • Thank you, but I’m still confused.

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        • makagutu says:

          I think it is a case of showing that secularists could do a better job drawing a list of dos and donts without the help of a god. It is similar to writing better prose than the Koran to show the muslim adherent that his pales in comparison to human endeavours.

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          • Being secular simply means to be separate from religion. Secularism means government being separate from religion. Religion and god are not dependent upon each other. Religions can exist without the belief in any god, and people can believe in gods without membership in any religion. And, why would it be the responsibility of secularist to tell people how to live their lives?

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          • makagutu says:

            I don’t think they are telling anyone how to live their lives. I mean, they are 1000+ suggestions from different classes of people. And yes, I know there are non theistic religions.

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    • I’m confused too, and not just about this post. I’ve always been confused. Probably has something to do with all the airplane glue I sniffed as a toddler. Oh well, what can you do. 🙂

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    • Tanya says:

      I totally agree with what you’ve said! The first thing that came to my mind before even finishing the article was this- to even have commandments misses the point of atheism entirely! Atheism is about thinking for yourself and living a life free of commandments!! The actual ideas presented in the atheist commandments make perfect sense to me an atheist, but there need not be any list!

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      • Tanya says:

        My above comment is in response to Robert’s comment about how confusing the atheist commandment idea is.

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      • Exactly. I thought it very strange coming from an atheist.

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      • makagutu says:

        I must say I agree with you all. I have not at any one point someone should live in such and such away.
        Two atheism being a lack of belief in deities makes no other claims. And we are agreed on this point too.
        The OP I was responding to had claimed there is a contradiction between there being no right way to live and leaving the world a better place. My post was an attempt at showing there is no contradiction between the two.
        I saw the non commandments as a literary effort by atheists and non believers on what they would have written had they been the lawgiver instead of Moses, just as there have been lawgivers in ancient time.

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  4. john zande says:

    I concur. This is a bad idea, orchestrated by people who do not even understand the very fundamental definition of ‘atheism.’

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  5. Sonel says:

    The problem with theists is that they live their lives according to society’s rules. They love it when others tell them how to live their lives, what to believe and how to believe and I think it confuses them how non-believers like us can live satisfying lives and still be grateful and happy without believing in those lies. They can’t think ‘outside the box’ and have to believe in some supernatural being so their lives can make sense. At least we’re realistic and can live with it. 😀

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  6. ladysighs says:

    You just ruined my appetite for roast potatoes. 😦
    Going back to the definition of atheists: lack of belief in deities.
    Is there really a need or a reason (trying to find the right word and can’t) to have a list of non-commandments for atheists? Now, I am not against the list and think they are fine list to follow or strive for. I have copy/pasted the list and will try to apply. I wrote a comment in one of your posts the other day about the meaning of atheist being only lack of belief in deities. So while the 10 nice things to strive for are nice, they really don’t have anything to do with atheism IMHO. lol Not being confrontational, but just something I have been thinking about. 🙂 I realize the list was in response to the believers list of 10 nonsense things.
    There is an old musical “Annie Get Your Gun” and in it is a song with the lyrics “Anything you can do I can do better; I can do anything better than you.”
    And without gods we can do anything better. 🙂

    I know. …. I should just go write a silly poem about it and quit thinking.

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  7. […] friends, and welcome to a special edition of Rent-A-Friend 2000. Today we’re seeing a reply to my recent series on the 10 atheist (non) commandments, showing that, no matter how simple I try to make things, people will tell me I’m wrong without […]

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    • makagutu says:

      Calling your friends for support eh. What a cheap way to do things. What claims does atheism make? I for one would like to know them. Maybe I have a wrong definition of atheism, I would be glad if you could help me here. I would not like to embarrass myself in future by using a very wrong definition if you get what I mean? You know this thing called honour/ vanity, it gets to the heads of the least of us too you know. So as a good christian I am sure you will help this godforsaken atheist.

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