A question on punishment

I have expressed my thoughts about punishment, freewill and so on.

Here is a case of a man who the prosecutor seeks a jail-term for 26yrs for two crimes; carelessness and cowardice. Careless because he took the vessel so close to shore to perform a maneuver and cowardice for abandoning ship.

What are you feelings on this matter.

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

43 thoughts on “A question on punishment

  1. ladysighs says:

    He was certainly careless and cowardly. I don’t disagree with that. I don’t think he is a criminal with malice. He certainly has already been punished with guilt probably. I don’t know… just a reply…


  2. Mordanicus says:

    I guess it would be sufficient to prohibit him from being a captain of a ship for the rest of his life. No one is helped by locking him up in jail.


  3. john zande says:

    Cut off his little finger and sow it onto his ear as a constant reminder to lift his game in the future 😉


  4. Tish Farrell says:

    This man will have to live with what he has done, and in that respect I suppose he might be safer in jail. Or there again, not. Locking people up for this kind, or most kind of crimes, seems pointless to me. And expensive. Better to find some way for wrong doers to make positive restitution and learn to better citizens. This eye for an eye approach serves no one much, does it?


  5. Liberty of Thinking says:

    I guess it’s about the idiot who was playing big time as captain of Costa Concordia…
    I just can’t imagine how in the world can such an absolute moron be left in charge at the wheel of a floating city.
    There’s no punishment I could imagine which could do justice to the lives, present and future, which he wrecked. And you guys who think soft, probably haven’t lost anyone in this tragedy. This was no mere accident, but the disastrous consequence of an incompetent who even though equiped with all the technology available in the 21st century, acted like a fool. He should have stayed behind, and drown with dignity as the last man standing, as it was once dictated by the maritime code of honour.
    Unfortunately dignity seems to have been banished from charter of human obligations, and unilaterally re-defined within the shallow puddle of mud called “human rights”.


    • makagutu says:

      I thought he had been captain of such vessels before. To allow an incompetent person at the helm of a moving “city” reeks of being irresponsible.
      Still his crime is incompetence, carelessness and cowardice. Is keeping him in prison just? I don’t know. It is sad that so many lives were lost.
      Whether others will learn to brave from keeping him in prison am not sure.
      I always thought the last man to leave the boat is the captain, in this case we had a coward in the wrong job.


      • Nan says:

        Off with his head!

        Seriously, it seems to be an innate reaction in our culture that the guilty party must somehow “pay” for his/her misdeeds (an eye for an eye …). Even more so when it involves the loss of life.

        Does 26 years seem harsh? I guess it depends on who you’re asking.


        • makagutu says:

          You really are right, the question is where one is standing. If I had lost limb in the ship, I could maybe asking for more time behind bars.
          Is it the way we should approach life in this age? I don’t know but I think it is important to ask


      • Liberty of Thinking says:

        Since capital punishment ain’t politically correct anymore, rot in prison without parole, would hopefully deter others from playing with boats too big for their competence…


  6. The punishment is way excessive and doesn’t fit the crime, in my opinion. That poor guy is already strapped with public cowardice and humiliation.


  7. I admit that there are probably important facts that are missing in the article as to whether or not 26 years is justified. Had he sailed there before? How reckless was he in giving the order that grounded the ship? How foreseeable were the deaths and injuries from his actions?

    The way it’s presented, it may seem like it’s straightforward, but from experience I know that all the relevant facts are never reported. Things could be less clear than what we see in the news, but then again things could be much worse too.


  8. aguywithoutboxers says:

    Who benefits from his imprisonment? Is any justice served? I think not.


  9. How come political leaders who get us into unnecessary war$, taking 10s of thousands of lives, condone torture, and leave countries in ruins rarely get sentence like this?

    What the guy did was wrong, but 26 years behind bars? O-o


  10. Nancy Oyula says:

    26 years is such a harsh sentence. They should have probably reduced his term in jail, or as someone above said, he should have been prohibited from being a captain all his life.


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