against war and religious instruction, in support of the rebel


Those with good memory remember a nitwit described me as having a predilection to violence when in every instances I have written in opposition to war, punishment and violence. I have another reason to oppose war, and I don’t know how best to put it other than to say it is a stupid way to resolve a dispute. That war between nations is only the duel either with gun or sword between individuals that has been transferred to nations and that soldiers are pawns in this game whether they know it or not.

Religious instruction has no value to society other than perpetuating the spread of false ideas as truths. And we must ask with Cohen Chapman

whether we are to permit the priest to hold the future to ransom by permitting this control of the child, or whether we are to leave religious beliefs, as we leave other beliefs of a speculative character, to such a time as the child is old enough to understand them.

And still with Chapman, we must note

it is the function of the true teacher to make his pupil independent of him. The aim of the priest is to keep one eternally dependent upon his ministrations. The final and fatal criticism upon religious instruction is that it is not education at all.

And now finally, in support of rebellion, especially rebellion to received religious dogma.

The Christian church has been tolerant towards the criminal, and has always been intolerant of the heretic and the freethinker. The church could forgive those who were responsible for the horrors of the English factory system but she could never forgive the writer of the Age of Reason.

And we can say finally with Chapman that

history, looking back through the ages, is bound to confess that it is to the great rebels, from Satan onward, that the world mainly owes whatever of greatness or happiness it has achieved.

 

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About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

59 thoughts on “against war and religious instruction, in support of the rebel

  1. Wow. Superbly said, Mr. Chapman. I couldn’t agree with him more, and I’m a hate-mongering, die hard Muslim. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  2. BTW, Cohen Chapman is a guy I want to read more of.

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  3. Just downloaded his “Determinism or Free-Will: for free, so I’ll be perusing it soon. Written in 1919. Amazing, we’re still discussing the same stuff today. My belief is that this “free-will” crap is still alive and kicking because of religion. Christianity in particular. I’ll read what Cohen says on it now. $Amen$

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    • makagutu says:

      That is part of the issue and the second one is one of misunderstanding. The freewill believer often doesn’t know what they mean by freewill.

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      • Very true. It wasn’t until I read Sam Harris’ little book on it a few years ago that it made sense to me in a clear way. The conversations and writings on this topic often become so mired in word salad and poop, that deciphering anything meaningful from them becomes all but impossible. They often end up adding to the confusion around the issue rather than helping to clarify it, at least they did for me.

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  4. Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

    Mak, I’m shocked anyone would suggest you having a predilection to violence…like you said, I’ve never seen you post anything of the sort, nor comment anything of the sort. How awful.

    Nice post….especially the part about the priests making people dependent.

    Of course the pedophile priests in the catholic church shines as an example to how the church has tolerated criminals. Before I left 7 months ago, my diocese declared bankruptcy to protect themselves from paying out too much money to sex victims.

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    • makagutu says:

      No thief has ever threatened the church only the person with a new idea is a big worry to the church.
      You didn’t see the post? Well the person said I keep the company of disreputable people

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      • Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

        Oh yes! I certainly remember the disreputable company part…I forgot the rest it. So you’re just a bad boy who hangs out with evil people. Shame, shame! ๐Ÿ˜‰ Well, I’m happy to call you friend.

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  5. themodernidiot says:

    How could anyone think you were violent? You have the kindest heart.

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  6. Veracious Poet says:

    We all know the brutal effects of war. But I don’t think wars will ever end since men, by nature, are constantly trying to dominate and control eachother.

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    • makagutu says:

      I am not saying they are about to end. All am saying is they are a bad way to resolve disputes

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      • Veracious Poet says:

        Maybe you didn’t understand me. Why would you write against wars if they are about to end? I’m just saying war is part of life. Sometimes there is just no other way to resolve an issue especially when one’s life is threatened.

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  7. Arkenaten says:

    Excellent summation, Mak.
    The church and violence go together like hand and glove.

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  8. Jackie says:

    Great post! I agree with you about wars – they are a very stupid way to resolve a dispute.

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    • makagutu says:

      Oh yes. That men and women enlist to join the army is a sign that the majority are stupid

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      • Jackie says:

        Herd mentality at it’s finest!

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        • Jackie says:

          Here is a quote for you: “…that worst outcrop of herd life, the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in fours to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; unprotected spinal marrow was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism – how passionately I hate them! How vile and despicable war seems to me! I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business. My opinion of the human race is high enough that I believe this bogey would have disappeared long ago, had the sound sense of the peoples not been systematically corrupted by commercial and political interests acting through the schools and the press.” -Albert Einstein

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  9. Ron says:

    …it is the function of the true teacher to make his pupil independent of him.

    Exactly.

    “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.”~Maimonides

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