Those with good memory remember a nitwit described me as having a predilection to violence when in every instances I have written in opposition to war, punishment and violence. I have another reason to oppose war, and I don’t know how best to put it other than to say it is a stupid way to resolve a dispute. That war between nations is only the duel either with gun or sword between individuals that has been transferred to nations and that soldiers are pawns in this game whether they know it or not.
Religious instruction has no value to society other than perpetuating the spread of false ideas as truths. And we must ask with Cohen Chapman
whether we are to permit the priest to hold the future to ransom by permitting this control of the child, or whether we are to leave religious beliefs, as we leave other beliefs of a speculative character, to such a time as the child is old enough to understand them.
And still with Chapman, we must note
it is the function of the true teacher to make his pupil independent of him. The aim of the priest is to keep one eternally dependent upon his ministrations. The final and fatal criticism upon religious instruction is that it is not education at all.
And now finally, in support of rebellion, especially rebellion to received religious dogma.
The Christian church has been tolerant towards the criminal, and has always been intolerant of the heretic and the freethinker. The church could forgive those who were responsible for the horrors of the English factory system but she could never forgive the writer of the Age of Reason.
And we can say finally with Chapman that
history, looking back through the ages, is bound to confess that it is to the great rebels, from Satan onward, that the world mainly owes whatever of greatness or happiness it has achieved.
Wow. Superbly said, Mr. Chapman. I couldn’t agree with him more, and I’m a hate-mongering, die hard Muslim. 🙂
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Does this mean you disagree with me?
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No. With what would I be disagreeing? “Religious instruction has no value to society other than perpetuating the spread of false ideas as truths.” I agree with this. Though, as a die hard Muslim and Jihad specialist, I find it hard to do. All hail Allah and his wife, Betty!
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You know I was just pulling your leg, to see how far it can go lo
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Not far. It’s only 6 inches long. 🙂
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Now I know
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It’s weird, my legs are only 6 inches long, but my willy-bit is 9 inches long. I kinda have to wrap it around me like a belt, or it’d be draggin’ behind me when I walk. Life’s a bitch bro. What can I say?
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Life has always been a bitch, lucky are those who are aware of this fact
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Lucky are those with a proportionate leg length to willy-bit length ratio, too.
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I agree. Now you have me checking my legs and I don’t know what else
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As long as you’re not able to comfortably use your man-stick as a belt, you should be fine, as are your lady friends. 🙂
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In that case there is no problem
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Mak, it’s okay to pull his 6-inch legs, but I’d stay away from his 9-inch willy-bit if I were you. Who knows where that thing has been!
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To be honest, even I don’t know where it’s been. Damn thing has a will of its own. AND, it’s been embezzling from me, I believe. Found it wearing an 8000 dollar mink penis pouch the other day. The bastard.
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I will keep away from it by a few miles
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What a prick! Spank that bastard!
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Good plan.
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Good advice. I will remember
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Hmm, leg pulling. Pretty violent.
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I think that is some violence right there. I just provided evidence to my accuser
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BTW, Cohen Chapman is a guy I want to read more of.
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You should. You will
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Chapman Cohen, I meant to write. I’m liking what I’m reading about and by him so far. Thanks for introducing me to him.
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You are welcome buddy. I like him
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To be an outspoken atheist back then, wow! I have to take my hat off to guys like him. People want to burn us alive now, I can only imagine it was much worse in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s. He’s my kinda dude.
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I was going through my goodreads and I noticed I first met him in 2013. He is in my good books
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Such a reasonable and sensible fellow.
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Oh yes. Now that you already like him. You can start with determinism and freewill
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I’ll use my freewill to get right on it.
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With your used freewill, I am certain you will like it
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Just downloaded his “Determinism or Free-Will: for free, so I’ll be perusing it soon. Written in 1919. Amazing, we’re still discussing the same stuff today. My belief is that this “free-will” crap is still alive and kicking because of religion. Christianity in particular. I’ll read what Cohen says on it now. $Amen$
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That is part of the issue and the second one is one of misunderstanding. The freewill believer often doesn’t know what they mean by freewill.
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Very true. It wasn’t until I read Sam Harris’ little book on it a few years ago that it made sense to me in a clear way. The conversations and writings on this topic often become so mired in word salad and poop, that deciphering anything meaningful from them becomes all but impossible. They often end up adding to the confusion around the issue rather than helping to clarify it, at least they did for me.
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I have always said I will read Harris’ book sometime but never actually gotten to it.
Most people I think also interchange the words and give them strange meanings. For example in the previous post you have someone saying we have freewill because we are freethinkers
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Yes. lots of word play and definition creation with this topic. I wonder, do Free Masons have free-will or do they use stone ones?
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I like that. Lots of word play
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Mak, I’m shocked anyone would suggest you having a predilection to violence…like you said, I’ve never seen you post anything of the sort, nor comment anything of the sort. How awful.
Nice post….especially the part about the priests making people dependent.
Of course the pedophile priests in the catholic church shines as an example to how the church has tolerated criminals. Before I left 7 months ago, my diocese declared bankruptcy to protect themselves from paying out too much money to sex victims.
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No thief has ever threatened the church only the person with a new idea is a big worry to the church.
You didn’t see the post? Well the person said I keep the company of disreputable people
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Oh yes! I certainly remember the disreputable company part…I forgot the rest it. So you’re just a bad boy who hangs out with evil people. Shame, shame! 😉 Well, I’m happy to call you friend.
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I must be the type of company parents warn their children against keeping.
Am happy to call you a friend too
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How could anyone think you were violent? You have the kindest heart.
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I think maybe because of the way I am opposed to stupid, he thought am violent
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Perhaps compartmentalising you like that makes you seem an easier foe
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But it makes them look ridiculous
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As long as you aren’t mistaken for one of them, let it.
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We all know the brutal effects of war. But I don’t think wars will ever end since men, by nature, are constantly trying to dominate and control eachother.
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I am not saying they are about to end. All am saying is they are a bad way to resolve disputes
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Maybe you didn’t understand me. Why would you write against wars if they are about to end? I’m just saying war is part of life. Sometimes there is just no other way to resolve an issue especially when one’s life is threatened.
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Excellent summation, Mak.
The church and violence go together like hand and glove.
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And the church has always supported the state to oppress the freethinkers and the rebels
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Yes, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor and that does not make sense! So you must acquit! The defense rests.
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Great post! I agree with you about wars – they are a very stupid way to resolve a dispute.
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Oh yes. That men and women enlist to join the army is a sign that the majority are stupid
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Herd mentality at it’s finest!
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Here is a quote for you: “…that worst outcrop of herd life, the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in fours to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; unprotected spinal marrow was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilization ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism – how passionately I hate them! How vile and despicable war seems to me! I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business. My opinion of the human race is high enough that I believe this bogey would have disappeared long ago, had the sound sense of the peoples not been systematically corrupted by commercial and political interests acting through the schools and the press.” -Albert Einstein
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Thanks Jackie. This is such a great quote. Could it be from the letters between Freud and Einstein? where they discussed the question of war?
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It’s from his book “Ideas and Opinions”.
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Very well said Ron, very well said.
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