Open thread


Most times on this blog, I tell you what I think you would like to hear. Today, I will change tact, I will allow you to tell me what to write about. Just write them in the comment thread and yours truly will choose which ones to write about.

While at it, here is a question. What is the difference in meaning in the two statements below.

1. I saw him in my dream

2. In my dream I saw him

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

51 thoughts on “Open thread

  1. john zande says:

    Natural Theology’s silliness.

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  2. archaeopteryx1 says:

    I’d like to know more about Matthew’s (27:51-53) zombies – they arose when Yeshua died, yet waited three days (until the resurrection) to hike into Jerusalem – what does a bunch of zombies do for three days? What happened to them after that? Are they still out there? Do I still need to keep looking under my bed every night?

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    • makagutu says:

      Hahahaha, arch I didn’t see this coming but you sure have made me laugh.

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      • I’ll second arch’s request. I want to know where those zombies are and if I can meet them.

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        • makagutu says:

          It will be attempted

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          • That’s a babble verse no preacher ever preaches about. I wonder why? Hee, hee. What do apologists like WLC say about this verse? And, most importantly, where are these zombies now? Do I need fear them? Can they be killed with a shot to the brain? Do they eat the flesh of the living? Do they date? What do they wear and where do they live? Ya can’t help but wonder.

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          • makagutu says:

            The man of ideas isn’t a favourite of the church and I think if they would, the would have deleted such verses from the babble

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          • Surprises me that they didn’t. One thing I’m getting a strong message from Bart Ehrman’s book about is that the babble has been edited, picked over, rewritten, and reinterpreted many, many times over the centuries. Why leave in such a verse? I wonder too, what happened to Lazarus? Is he still around? Does he smell? Does he eat brains? Where does he live? Thinking plus babble reading do not go together.

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          • archaeopteryx1 says:

            Does he smell?” – Oh, he already did – In the Lazarus story, where Mary, Lazarus’s sister, is trying to get Jesus to do something soon, I recall that little two-word verse she used that I always thought was so funny: “He stinketh.”

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          • Yes. Right. I always wondered though, does he STILL stinketh after he’s been resurrected? I mean, that would really suck. Here you get brought back from the dead after a week in the tomb; ya smell like decayed meat; parts of you are falling off, and then Jesus just takes off on ya leaving you there like that. Yuck. So, I wonder, whaa haapeen ta Lazarus? The babble really sucks as a decent piece of fiction. Just leaves ya hangin’ there. You’d think they were makin’ this shit up on the fly or something, eh? 😀

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          • archaeopteryx1 says:

            SAY it isn’t so!

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          • makagutu says:

            Can he be killed a second and third time

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          • Great question. And, to kill him, must he be shot in the head like a zombie from a George Romero movie? I must know these answers!

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          • makagutu says:

            And did he remarry? What did the new wife think? Does he have children still walking around with us

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          • archaeopteryx1 says:

            Don’t know, Inspired, if you watch much TV, but there’s a rather novel twist on a new TV series, “I, Zombie.” A young lady, a medical doctor in a hospital, goes to a party on a boat, which is attacked by a zombie. She gets scratched, passes out, and wakes up in a body bag – she is now a zombie (although a rather hot one), with pale skin and white hair. She resigns her position from the hospital, taking a job as a medical examiner at the morgue, in order to be near a steady supply of brains. As murdered corpses come in, she has found that once she eats any part of the corpse’s brain, she then knows what they knew, and so she uses that knowledge to solve their murder.

            I personally would never have had the balls to try to pitch that concept to a roomful of TV executives, but someone did, it got on TV, and actually, I think they’re going to be able to pull it off! It’s kinda funny – a female/Quincy/zombie combo.

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          • Yes. I rather like that show. Clever. And fun. Much more so than the babble.

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    • Ron says:

      You’re in luck today, Arch!

      Apologist Michael Licona contends the resurrection of the saints should probably be interpreted as “apocalyptic imagery” rather than a literal event. As he explains in a roundtable discussion (PDF, p.4):

      I wondered whether these things reported by Virgil, Dio Cassius, and Josephus were
      all intended to be understood as events that had occurred in space-time. Or were they an ancient literary devevice—“special effects”—meant to accentuate an event of cosmic, even divine significance?…I became persuaded that the raised saints in Matthew 27 belonged to the same genre.

      However, this Internet apologist offers a different explanation:

      It’s not talking about Jerusalem on earth. It is talking about the Jerusalem in heaven. The New Jerusalem in the eschatological role found in the Apocalypse. “And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.” Apoc 21:2

      Those souls of saints were asleep (biblical term for limbo) and when the doors of heaven opened they were raised. The Heavenly Jerusalem already exists. We refer to those in there already as the Church Triumphant. We here are the Church militant. Those purging are the Church suffering. All three form the universal (Catholic) Church.

      So there you go. Two mutually exclusive answers to choose from. Take your pick.

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  3. Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

    I would like to know what makes you laugh the most about religion. For me it’s when christians rant about goats…I’m forever humored by being called a goat. I was amused you even did a post on it awhile ago, when you asked, “what’s wrong with goats?”

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    • archaeopteryx1 says:

      That’s strange – I’ve been called a lot of things, but never a goat.

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      • Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

        Huh, never? I get called a goat several times per week. Perhaps I should change my avatar from a dead tree to a nice goat pic!

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        • makagutu says:

          I have always seen your avatar as a live tree in the foreground of a dark cloud.

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          • Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

            I love that you’re an optimist Mak. 🙂

            To me it looks like a dead tree, but I like to think there is still life inside, despite outward appearances.

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          • makagutu says:

            Me an optimist? Far from it. Thoroughgoing pessimist maybe but most times none of the two

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        • archaeopteryx1 says:

          I like your tree – I once painted such a tree, thinking romantically, as most teens do, that it resembled me, solitary.

          I’m thinking you should hang out with a better class of Christian bullies.

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          • Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

            Yes Arch, I too like the solitude the tree represents (I’m an introvert and enjoy solitude).

            Only the nice christians call me a goat…the rest call me some version of satan. The arm of satan, the instrument of satan, that I’m beguiled by the devil…the list goes on and on. That’s why I find the insult of “goat” to be hysterically funny. But I suppose it could be referencing satan’s cloven hooves, so maybe it’s not that different from the other insults.

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          • archaeopteryx1 says:

            You might find this informative:

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          • Ain't No Shrinking Violet says:

            That was a fascinating video! I gave satan the boot when I gave jesus the boot, but I loved seeing how he was constructed from the bible. The next time someone bible bangs me over email, I think I’ll send them a link to that video (catholics are really big into the devil). Muhahaha!

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    • makagutu says:

      Vi, I think I will have something to say about this

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  4. ladysighs says:

    First things first.
    1. I saw him in my dream
    To me this sounds…..oh yuck….that character was in my dream. 😦
    2. In my dream I saw him
    To me this sounds…..oh WOW ! Mr. Gorgeous was in my dream. (and I’m going back to sleep to finish the dream) 🙂

    You write a lot about debates etc of online people you meet and responses to them. I would like to read more about your everyday experiences with some and how you respond to those who press silliness on you.

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  5. I left a thread open once, and it bled out. Be careful to have a first aid kit near this thread, OK? Wouldn’t want the poor thing to die without a decent attempt at stitching it up. Oh, and get some anti-biotics. Wouldn’t want the poor thing getting infected. An infected thread is not a nice thread.

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  6. My suggested writing topic:

    What are the possibilities that the ancient texts and oral traditions depict then-unexplainable human experiences which were misinterpreted as manifestations of god(s)?

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  7. A Guy Without Boxers says:

    In the first, you were thinking of him and then dreamed about him. In the second, he appeared in your dream without prior thought. My Nairobi brother, excellent post! Much love and many naked hugs! 😉

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  8. ejwinner says:

    Sentence 1 emphasizes “him,” and we expect what follows will be about ‘him.’

    Sentence 2 emphasizes the dream, and so we expect what follows will be about either the dreamer or the dreamer.

    I would like to see more comedy – so please continue quoting from theists, they’re always good for a laugh.

    (BTW, I posted on the issue of ‘ways of knowing,’ as you asked. Hope this helps.)

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  9. Arkenaten says:

    I would be interested in exploring the health care regime Jesus used to prevent potential athlete’s foot and soggy wrinkly skin after his Lake Tiberius excursions.

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    • makagutu says:

      Ark, you are crazy. I laughed at this, seriously did.
      But given Jesus would use spit to heal lost eyesight, I believe the method he would adopt is to smear chicken shit on the affected foot

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      • Arkenaten says:

        Thank you for this insightful observation.
        Chicken Poop must also be the reason for the wonderful condition of his flowing locks.
        And I always thought that when he was referred to as a chickenshit it meant his personality.
        Who would have guessed it was his feet and hair?

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        • makagutu says:

          If the story is to be believed, guys were spitting on him as they were going to hang him on the cross, sort of him getting the same measure he doled out. Am sure there was some rotten ages used as well.

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