you know who you are. I understand your frustrations sometimes, I really do and this is one of the times I really feel you my friends.
THIS PROPOSITION IS NOT TRUE. IS IT TRUE OR NOT? |
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Suppose it true. | Suppose it not true. |
Then, | Then, |
The proposition is true; | It is not true; |
But, that it is not true is the proposition: | [Ergo,] It is true that it is not true. |
[Ergo,] That it is not true is true; | But, the proposition is that it is not true. |
[Ergo,] It is not true. | [Ergo,] The proposition is true. |
Besides, | Besides, |
It is true. | The proposition is not true. |
[Ergo,] It is true that it is true; | But that it is not true is the proposition. |
[Ergo,] It is not true that it is not true; | [Ergo,] That it is not true, is not true; |
But, the proposition is that it is not true, | [Ergo,] That it is true, is true; |
[Ergo,] The proposition is not true. | [Ergo,] It is true. |
[Ergo,] Whether it is true or not, it is both true and not. [Ergo,] It is both true and not, which is absurd. |
Where’s Romeo when we need him?
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this is too complex for Romeo
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Yeah. True.
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It leaves no room for quoting bible verses. I see no way he could make a contribution
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That wouldn’t necessarily keep him from rambling on anyway. He seems good at that.
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He is impossible.
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“Holy Schrodinger’s cat, Batman!”
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Are you saying the cat is dead and alive at the same time or it isn’t
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It’s a Catholic cat and is in Purgatory. Thus, it’s neither alive or dead. It’s waiting on god to decide.
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You are sure it wasn’t a Protestant? And is in hell now?
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Could be. His name was Luther, I believe.
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Yes.
And no.
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Are you trying to confuse me.
Hope you have been well old fellow. You haven’t been seen lately
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It shows that philosophy is useful when you’re stuck on that island with the two tribes, one of whom always lies and the other of whom always tells the truth.
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How would you tell when the tribe that is always lying are telling the truth?
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You’ll have to rely on faith alone in such a case.
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Faith they are telling the truth or faith that I will know the truth when they say it or both?
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Well, theologians on the island have been debating and warring over that very question for years. Which faith is right, and how should it be applied? Tough questions, Mak. You ask tough questions.
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One has to be sure of some things before they visit a new place you know, bear with me
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Argghhhhhh!
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John, I have you mind
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I hear that… argghhhhhh!
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Bob, not you too! I though we were on the same side
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We are… I think. But, this post has my head spinning. Daddy once told me that too much masturbation – even if just mental – isn’t a good thing! 🙂
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Your dad had a lot of sense
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I think he masturbated too much.
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Bob. I will remember to ask him this question should we meet someday
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He’s gone now, but I don’t think he would’ve denied it.
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In the next life.
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OOPS! Sorry, Bob. Scratch my last smart-ass comment.
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No problemo.
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If you do meet him make sure he washes his hand before you shake it. 🙂
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You guys sound like pirates.
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Arr me bucko! Me aye patch es flappin’ en da wind! 🙂
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Where do pirates eat? At AAARRRHHBY’s
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Oh nnnoooooo! Cheap fake meat sandwich product! 😦
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Yeah. It’s awful. Haven’t had anything from there in decades.
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Right there with you John!
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LOL
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I am glad you could find this funny
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Thank you, my Nairobi brother! Now I’m totally confused. Am I alive or am I dead? LOL! Much love and naked hugs (I think)! 🙂
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You are most welcome.
I should have found some place to add from me with love
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You do so with every post you publish, my friend! 😉
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🙂
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The story of the Babel Fish
“Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as the final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: “I refuse to prove that I exist,'” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.”
“But,” says Man, “The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn’t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don’t. QED.”
“Oh dear,” says God, “I hadn’t thought of that,” and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
“Oh, that was easy,” says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
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Hey Peter,
Even gods get confused I see
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Such a convoluted convex argument coupled with monochrome concave dino-flagellates masquerading as emasculated pontifications and Baysian propensities alongside a Socratic discipline of Plato induced Freudian slips of infinitesimal longitudinal xenomorphic idiosyncratic detail can only lead to a post-Aquinas sans Carrier/Craig like singularity: ergo, god is real,left handed and has one testicle.
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Hitler?
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I think you are oversimplifying a beautifully complex irreducible obfuscated geometric paradigm with undertones of pre-1930 Austrian
Wagner-esk hyphenated tautologies.
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You are confusing me
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Yup.
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Haha.
This is new proof for god.
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Only if this god is a non gender bi-sexual uni-testicular, vaginally lubricated monotheistic Jesus freakish, polyglot with a penchant for paisley ties and an addiction to re-runs of the Rockford Files.
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Who has evidence to the contrary to provide it
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I don’t believe it can be done. Everyone know paisley ties are forever.
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I will be waiting for contrary evidence against this left handed unitesticular god.
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One testicle and three nipples.
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And one eye
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A near-sighted one at that.
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and a short hand
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PHILOSOPHY TO THE RESCUE:
Imma go out on a limb and posit that “true or false” is not a true dichotomy. Other options include “nonsensical” (which cannot really be said to be true or false, because its nonsense) and “paradox” (which I feel this is).
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Yes. Paradox it is.
You have read of zeno’s paradoxes?
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No. Unless that’s the one about the arrow never reaching a target because it goes half way, and then half that, then half that again…
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That is one of them.
There is another about a frog race. Most of them have been answered success except that one regarding the arrow
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I think of the arrow one line this:
* Assume the arrow travels at a constant speed.
* It takes off at t0 and is half way by t1, then half again by t1.5 and half way again by t1.75… And so on.
* You then show that we’re talking about a geometric progression tending towards t2.
* You also see that the distance time graph shows a linear relationship. (From which, extrapolations can be made.)
* the arrow therefore arrives at t2.
I also like the physicist and the mechanic solution: a physicist and mechanic are stood at opposite ends of a hall way and in the middle is a beautiful naked woman. They are told they may approach her by travelling half the distance to her, then half again. The physicist refuses to participate because he can see from his maths that he will never reach her. The mechanic does play, because he realises be will get close enough for all practical purposes.
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Hahahaha. Indeed for all practical purposes, the mechanic is at an advantage
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Clearly it is true it is not true, and not true that it is true.
Makes perfect sense. At least during my first marriage… Arguing with a bipolar witch from hell leaves you with the exact same feeling this paradox leaves you with.
My apologies to all of the bipolar witches from hell who might take offense. You were never singled out or implied, and refunds are non transferrable. 🙂
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You know this was a special dedication to my friends like you 😛
It is a paradox, an annoying one at that
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Gee thanks Mak. I already had the blade of philosophy partly embedded between my ribs, you just had to push it in a little further, didn’t ya? What are friends for if not to jab a little here and there? 😉
It might take a week, a month, maybe a year, I will get you when you least expect it! 🙂
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I have been forewarned 😛
Some arguments like the ontological arguments really, at the end of day, leave us where we began, with no gods. At least a discussion on what is good or what is beautiful is more interesting
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I’ll drink to that!
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