Scholars for spoiling the party.
If this can be verified, Islam is up for a rewrite of its history.
Damn you!
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Fascinating. Damn scholars. Why, oh why, can’t they just accept the truth as it’s told to them? Why do they insist on LEARNING and VERIFYING things? They make it SO bloody hard for religious folk like me to convince all I say is true just because I said it. You’re right: DAMN THEM!!!!
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Why can’t they just leave us alone with our delusions? They are always finding things, verifying things, correcting things and so much more! Damn them all
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Pretty sweet. This is kind-of amazing. Damn you science….why do you have to be so cool!
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You know, destroying superstition since [fill in the brackets]
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I don’t know. The date ranges appear to be pretty inconclusive anyway, so I am not reading in the story anything all that earthshaking.
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The dates if conclusive would, I think, show that made up Mo did not dictate the Koran and I think this for a Muslim is earthshaking.
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Re: ‘Birmingham Koran’ fragment could be older than the Prophet Muhammad
Ruh-roh! If Muslims didn’t already have enough to get them angry! So glad I live many thousands of miles from the Middle East. I wouldn’t go there if you paid me big bucks!
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I think we need to annoy Muslims much more till they learn to behave like adults
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In what century do we expect hardcore Muslims to behave like adults? I don’t see that happening in the current one by a long-shot. But, I do see great turmoil in the decades ahead – far worse than anything we’ve experienced so far – and the Islamic Middle East will be its focal point.
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Not in this we are living in
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Golly gee, how original.
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which I think would be the likely story
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About my response.
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Now that is interesting! Of course, these idiots still believe the earth is flat, so i doubt they’re going to accept the science of Carbon dating.
Wild twist, though.
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If it is science, and it is not Muslim science, it is wrong. Matter settled
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Bingo!
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Evidence 1000. Faith 0
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Yes. Evidence, destroying faith since the beginning of time
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Did they test the ink? It seems like that would be the kicker, not the paper.
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It does seem there is still some checking going on
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Never take anything you can read in The Daily Mail as gospel. 😉
A far more reliable account of the matter:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/22/oldest-quran-fragments-found-at-birmingham-university
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Now I know.
I think the two articles are not that far apart in this particular instance.
But I think it matters little when the story was made up, as long as it was made up
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“Never take anything you can read in The Daily Mail as gospel” – This is very much the case, it’s the oiliest of rags The Mail for the most part.
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From the Birmingham University website:
“Radiocarbon analysis has dated the parchment on which the text is written to the period between AD 568 and 645 with 95.4% accuracy.”
“…the Prophet Muhammad received the revelations that form the Qur’an, the scripture of Islam, between the years AD 610 and 632….”
“The final, authoritative written form was completed and fixed under the direction of the third leader, Caliph Uthman, in about AD 650.”
But the same article mentions that there were pieces written down before 650. So, it’s interesting, but doesn’t really point to anything definitive one way or another.
“The Qur’an manuscript is part of the University’s Mingana Collection of Middle Eastern manuscripts, held in the Cadbury Research Library. Funded by Quaker philanthropist Edward Cadbury, the collection was acquired to raise the status of Birmingham as an intellectual centre for religious studies and attract prominent theological scholars.”
I can’t help feeling it wasn’t found in an institution that was more focused on archeology or history rather than theology. “Theological scholar” strikes me as an oxymoron.
There might be all sorts of fascinating things in the Middle East that might never get a chance to be studied impartially, or at least not for generations.
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I agree it might not amount to much.
I think even the very human beginnings, without any assistance of the divine, of Islam hasn’t been fully looked into both by Muslims and non Muslims alike
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Never fear. The gyrations and contortions the faithful must endure on a daily basis, to keep reality from encroaching upon their faith, will conveniently be more than strong enough to help them ignore this crisis.
Faith, ignoring relaity since the dawn of fucking time.
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Faith, ignoring reality before the beginning of time
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That too 😉
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