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why do good people die?


Princess Mary is writing a letter to her friend Julie Karagina and she offers an explanation of why good people die. She is consoling her friend following the death of her brother in one of the campaigns. She says she can only explain it as a providence of god, who loving her (Julie) wishes to try you and your excellent mother.

She then proceeds to say

Religion alone can save us from despair

which reminds me of the quote

religion; it’s given peace in a world torn apart by religion

She then says

religion alone can explain to us what without its help man cannot comprehend; why, for what cause, kind and noble beings able to find happiness in life are called away to god, while cruel, useless, harmful persons, or such as are a burden to themselves and others are left living.

And I know many are wondering what this answer may be. She says death was but an expression of the infinite goodness of the creator, who every action, though generally incomprehensible to us, is but a manifestation of his infinite love for his creatures.

And as her final apology for god, she says

and his will is governed only be infinite love for us and so whatever befalls us is for our good.

And at this point I ask why should a believer ask god to grant their wish, like ask god to make their team win? Is it not god’s will that the believer’s life is shitty and this for their own good? Am I missing something?

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

53 thoughts on “why do good people die?”

  1. john zande says:
    September 29, 2015 at 16:37

    The lie is comforting, says Mary.

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  2. lindenforestbrook says:
    September 29, 2015 at 16:59

    I get really sick at my stomach when I hear people say “he’s in a better place.” Wtf kind of messed up comment is that?! How do they know? Maybe it’s like beetlejuice…http://youtu.be/Fj_inlzsDhQ
    😉

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  3. archaeopteryx1 says:
    September 29, 2015 at 17:00

    In a discussion on assisted suicide on another site, I was offered the following comment – that a person would be better off living in pain, than ceasing to exist.

    I was reminded of Mark Twain’s comment, “I was dead for millions of years before I was born, and I don’t see that it inconvenienced me any,” which gave me cause to wonder (and comment) if the person above would rather have been in pain for all of those millions of years before he was born, or to simply not have existed.

    Einstein once said, and I’m beginning to agree with him, “Only two things are eternal, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the universe.“

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    • makagutu says:
      September 30, 2015 at 08:11

      for most people, they would rather live in pain, senseless pain than dispatch themselves. Maybe it is the hope they will get well or for some, the religious mainly, god is testing them

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  4. inspiredbythedivine1 says:
    September 29, 2015 at 17:04

    I agree: the lie is comforting to many. Something struck me about this sentence: “..the infinite goodness of the creator, who every action, though generally incomprehensible to us,..” The actions of this said creator are always described as unknowable and mysterious UNLESS the faithful are describing its feelings about gay people. Then its feelings are VERY clear and well known: God hates gays, and the faithful are certain of it. Funny how that works, eh?

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  5. exrelayman says:
    September 29, 2015 at 19:36

    Well, the idea a GOOD and POWERFUL entity that does not suffer and does not die would create creatures that do suffer and do die is, as has been said before on the interwebs, “stupidity on stilts”.

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  6. Robert A. Vella says:
    September 29, 2015 at 22:42

    No, you’re not missing something. Religious beliefs are an irrational state of mind which cannot be justified through reason.

    Regarding the question “why do good people die?”:

    There is no such thing as “good” and “bad” people. People commit a whole range of behaviors from extremely constructive to extremely destructive. It is the broad factors of nature and nurture which uniquely determines the sum total of behaviors for each individual. Therefore, the question is both immaterial and irrelevant.

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  7. Violet says:
    September 29, 2015 at 23:28

    I worked in a hospital for over a decade, and even as a devout catholic I couldn’t make sense of the ways christians would talk about death. They’d always say, “God calls the good ones.” Let me assure you I saw people of all ages and genders die. The saints and the sinners alike all died. Good people suffered terrible, painful diseases and so did “bad” people (convicts who were chained to their hospital beds). It completely confused me how christians would say god chooses the “special ones” to kill and bring up to heaven. Or, they’d say only a good person lives a long time…well hell, none of us is immortal no matter how good we are, so that doesn’t make sense either. As someone else said, all this talk must be a comfort thing, because it sure isn’t a logical thing.

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  8. clubschadenfreude says:
    September 30, 2015 at 01:09

    “and his will is governed only be infinite love for us and so whatever befalls us is for our good.”

    So says the sycophant who is desperately afraid of their god and has to insist that their delusion that might makes right, is a good idea, honest.

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