A question for atheists


Well, they are many questions and accusations. I think the OP can’t count or forgot they had several questions to ask.

  1. Which leads to my question for atheists: where do you get your faith? What faith?
  2. But to look out at creation and proclaim: “I know there is no Creator!” is beyond me. How do you know? This is a loaded question. The author has assumed that the universe was created. I can easily ask, apart from the mention in religious books, how else have you come to the conclusion the universe was created?
  3. How can one ever be 100% convinced that God does not exist? The same way I know a fronkey doesn’t exist
  4. Atheists cannot explain the origin of the universe. They don’t have to and doesn’t make them less atheist
  5. Atheists cannot explain the origin of life. Neither can you and this is not an argument against atheism
  6. Ironically, atheism is not without its crowned saint – Charles Darwin.- No, saints belong to the church. He was an eminent scientist and naturalist. Get used to it.
  7. So what explains atheism’s appeal, especially among the young, urban, and educated? In the words of Ernest Hemingway, all thinking men are atheists. Or Henri D’Holdbach, ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, knowledge of nature is calculated to destroy them

From here, the OP goes downhill, never to be rescued. He claims we are atheists because we want to be our own gods. I know I don’t want to be a god, though being Dionysus wouldn’t be so bad. And I find nothing really wrong at having a laugh at the ignorant masses when they make their god representatives rich as they wallow in poverty.

And this canard about atrocities committed in the 20th century by atheists gets boring. I can easily point one to Catholic Rwanda where neighbour turned against neighbour or Congo where Christians and Muslims are slowly decimating each other or Kenya where Christians butchered each other in the name of their political godfathers. If secular men and women have gone to war or butchered each other, I am almost certain it wasn’t for their disbelief. The religious wars on the other hand have been fought in the name of gods.

And no theist post would end without this accusation, either directly or indirectly

This is not to say that atheists are bad people—far from it. There can be and have been many good atheists or agnostics, just as there have been religious people who nevertheless committed heinous crimes.

which is no argument against atheism.

But to write

 But to categorically deny the existence of a Creator is unscientific, and atheism requires far greater faith than Christianity.

is evidence of ignorance on the part of the author, ignorance that is incurable.

 

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About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

59 thoughts on “A question for atheists

  1. Oliver Q. says:

    I agree with essentially everything you said here. I cannot, for the life of me, remember the specific speech by Dawkins, but I like what he said, which was essentially that “we’re all atheists, some of us just take it one god further.” The particular level of ignorance that seems to enshroud many people when it comes to atheism is astounding. I think one of my more favorite criticisms is when an individual for whom I work with stated, rather fanatically, that “all atheists need to leave this country and go back to where they came from!”

    Anyway, thanks for the post.

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    • makagutu says:

      Did they say where the atheists should go to?

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      • Oliver Q. says:

        Ha! Not at all. That little jab was in context of a conversation concerning terrorism (awkwardly enough). The same individual proclaimed that the United States has seen a decline in moral rectitude following the “destruction of the ten commandments” and the subsequent right to marry people of the same sex. The person compared atheists to Muslim terrorists, and touted that “anyone who doesn’t like America doesn’t deserve to stay.” I am personally unaware of any “atheist homeland.”

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        • fojap says:

          I mentioned recently, in a post about a woman who said that people who didn’t like the growing diversity in the U.K. should leave, that this just pointless rhetoric since it’s in fact quite difficult to leave your country of origin. In this case, I don’t agree with people who were told to leave, but it’s still a pointless comment that serves only to make the speaker feel powerful.

          The really sad thing, is that an important part of civil society is learning to live with people you don’t agree with. I suspect that people who have spent their entire lives in relatively stable societies forget the importance of settling differences peacefully, having a peaceful transfer of power and so on.

          That’s also the importance of a secular society. It’s not that the government needs to be atheistic, but it needs to be neutral so people of different beliefs can live together without killing each other.

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  2. Arkenaten says:

    Truly these people are simply monumental, ignorant arse-hats. This is what apologetic indoctrination does.

    Oh, and FYI, I used to own a fronkey. It died after choking on a *motato.

    From Dickerpeedier *Motato: A food eaten exclusively by fronkeys.

    So there.

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  3. niceatheist says:

    Hey Noel,
    There’s a season of Bill Nye’s children’s show from the early 1990s on Netflix instant streaming. He has one episode specifically about evolution that my boys watched this week. He says brilliant things in such a simple manner anyone can understand. As humans we have been on this earth for so long that we have changed dramatically. With each generation came little changes at a time. He uses many examples including a picture of his parents. He makes a photo copy of it and tells his TV audience that the original and the copy are similar, but not quite the same.

    As a Christian, I never understood the theory of evolution. Like most theists, I wanted to believe the earth was a few thousand years old. My approach to evolution was the ignorant “I didn’t come from monkeys” sentiment. Now I can appreciate the time and process it took us to get to where we are now. However, I do find it upsetting that there are religionists and politicians who do all they can to attempt the prevention of mental and emotional growth. Expanding our minds is part of evolutionary growth. Yet, there are so many who do all they can to halt it.

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  4. archaeopteryx1 says:

    How can one ever be 100% convinced that God does not exist? The same way I know a fronkey doesn’t exist

    Reg is going to be SO PISSED at you, he has devoted his entire life to raising those cute little boogers –!

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  5. shelldigger says:

    The level of ignorance and terrible assumptions is astounding. This one has been conditioned in teh stoopid for quite some time. Doubtful that reality will find them anytime soon. Even if a fronkey bites him on the ass!

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  6. john zande says:

    Heathen! Fronkey’s exist

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  7. Mystro says:

    I gotta say, I’d love to be a god. I’d even settle for being a demi-god. Most of the frustrations and pains I’ve endured have been due to a distinct lack of supernatural powers. Though, I don’t think that has anything to do with my atheism. Atheism happens when I’m thinking seriously about the real world. Yearning for godhood happens when I’m being fanciful or cursory.

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    • makagutu says:

      I agree with you. When I am being fanciful, I wouldn’t mind being Apollo or Dionysus

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      • Mystro says:

        You have much kinder god dreams than I. I feel I would go on a smiting spree. Teaching kids that dinosaurs were on Noah’s ark? Boils on your tongue. Using your religious station to hide or get away with the sexual abuse of children? Your genitalia are now gangrenous. Dodging a rational debate by saying ‘I’ll pray for you’? You get an irresistibly itchy bum crack for a week. Play Christian Rock “music” in public? You will suffer invisible noogies of increasing severity until you turn that junk off.

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  8. Maybe it’s a George Michael kind of faith:

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  9. Once again, Mak, you’ve uncovered a true chowder head of a christian.

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  10. fojap says:

    “And I find nothing really wrong at having a laugh at the ignorant masses when they make their god representatives rich as they wallow in poverty.”

    This really bothers me. My sister works in a poor neighborhood, yet the people there give to their churches. There are a few cases of the classic “preacher who walks around in Gucci loafers and drives a Cadillac.”

    Even more grotesque, I recently read that some pastors accuse children of witchcraft and then charge to do an exorcism. Ignorance and supersition are bad enough, but when you couple that with a lack of scruples and greed you have a recipe for disaster.

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  11. ratamacue0 says:

    I agree with most of this. But the ignorance is not (always) incurable.

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  12. I think the OP is a she Mak.

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  13. I’ve commented on blog post. It will be curious to see if she allows it through. She claims she is a world history teacher. For supposedly being that, she is amazingly ignorant.

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