The bible believers insist their god is good. And we accept it.
The challenge then is to list the good things this god has done. No, helping you find parking or find the keys you lost don’t count. The list has to be from the bible. We have a list of untold cruelty he did or was complacent in their commission.
This is the one time opportunity for goddites to impress me.
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I like the idea of a good god. The idea is good. He needs to be more like Santa. God has a long white beard (I see it in his pictures). He just needs a red suite. 🙂 But then he would be the Devil. 😦 Of course that might be an improvement.
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He would be the Devil if his red suit had a shade of black. Red is ok for god
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I cannot accept a Satan who is fat and poorly dressed in a garish suit. TOOAIN, if and when he finally manifests to his slaves, must be slim and imperious, and in a sharp as heck suit!
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No objections
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Subbing
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That’s easy, he’s given us beautiful things like puppies and rainbows and herpes. Oh wait a sec, never mind.
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Oh boy, herpes, bubonic plague, typhoid fever and if you like bigger things cancer
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Er …. wait, I am still thinking , dammit!
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There must be something he did that was good
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Well, God’s given us the Bible. That’s a good thing because it reveals his nature as a son of bitch in it. Without the Bible, we wouldn’t know what a prick he is. Ah, revelation! Where’d we be without it?
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Well yes. I want a good thing recorded in the bible
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There’s a great pizza recipe on page 567.
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I missed that, pizza tonight courtesy of god
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I guess, too, if you’re a psychopath, the disgusting acts of Yahweh might be seen as “good”. The dude’s pure evil. Can’t think of one good thing he does in the babble. Very interested to see the answers you get to this.
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I am waiting patiently for the answers
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Mak, I note with these sort of challenges that they don’t really get far because it always comes down to one real issue, does ‘God’ exist or not. I can understand why James (Isaiah 53:5) felt it was pointless to take up this challenge.
I suppose what most of your respondents are really saying in a roundabout sort of way is that the evidence suggests that the God of the Bible does not exist.
I like an argument that Bruce Gerencser put forward on his blog. He suggested that a powerful argument against the Christian God existing is the quality of lives lived by Christians. The fact that Christians share pretty much all the same faults as non Christians.
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In fact, Peter, in this post I am very generous. We are not discussing the question of existence. All we honestly want answered is the good things god did.
That argument by Bruce is an argument against in believer of revealed religion and in a wise and powerful god.
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“I can understand why James (Isaiah 53:5) felt it was pointless to take up this challenge.”
this sentence confuses me a bit. James?
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Sorry I was referring to a discussion between Mak and James over at Violetwisp’s:
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okay. I had wondered if it was some off the wall bible reference 🙂
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James had made an offer to publicise my blog but then I thought maybe answering this challenge was of more interest to me. And he declined claiming others didn’t take the question seriously
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He declined the challenge because he can’t meet it, a rather cowardly act.
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I got it. I really do. God was the first troll. A good that God did was the creation of trolling. He spoke through sock puppets like Moses and Ezekiel. What a marvelous joy trolls are!
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Or Jeremiah and when this didn’t work, lunatic Jeebus
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It’s always seemed to me that the Christian God evolved out of the, or perhaps a, tribal god. That tribal god did good things to the specific tribe he protected, like enabling them to defeat other tribes. It’s not what people more generally would say is “good,” but if you belong to the right tribe you might see it that way.
Now, why lots of other people wanted to start worshiping this tribal god who presumably doesn’t care about them has always puzzled me.
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Why lots of other believe in this god is truly a miracle. It says right there in the bible, god of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac! Not everyone
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What about the parting of the Red Sea thing? That apparently helped some non existent refugees escape a non fictional land.
But if you are looking something that really happened, well, good luck. lol!
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He offered some handy advice
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I have read that passage many moons ago. I’m as wtf? now, as I was then. What pray tell happens when you boil a goat in its mothers milk? Do devils jump out of the pot or something?
I think we have a grant proposal!
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Huh? What kind of sick, twisted person would do such a sadistic thing?
Look… Even Lord Genocide recognizes that’s it’s just plain wrong—ok? End of discussion.
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What kind of sick person? God
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C’mon man, Templeton is just foaming at the mouth trying to hand out $$, so guys like us can answer the great religious questions. I say we all try and help them out 😉
…then we can try to replicate the whole lying partially stripped sticks beside animals and see if it gives them stripes. It will be fun, and science!
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this would be a good research experiment.Can we get Templeton funding
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I applied for funds earlier this year to research TOOAIN. Wanted to see how they reacted. Their reply was: “This years grants have already been assigned, thank you.”
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Mean people! I hope they have you at the top of the list for next year
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I’ll reapply… I hope they’re serious about their pledge to investigating all spiritual realities 😉
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Maybe they are in theory, but not in practice.
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I’m serious. I’d love to see someone take much of the ignorant crap in the bible, and put it to the test. Take a purely scientific approach, dot the I’s and cross the T’s, and see how plausible these ignorant claims are.
I think most people already know deep down how silly the claims are, but wouldn’t it be fun to smack their CD with a mackerel? The responses would be priceless.
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Club has offered to do the altar challenge with heaps of preachers, but all have declined. Funny that.
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Which preacher in his or her right mind would want to try?
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It’d be fun if one did, though 🙂
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Of course it would be much more than fun! It would need to be broadcast on CNN.
And now that I mention it, could it be possible to get an international TV or news channel to invite a preacher to the duel to test their claims
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Funny indeed. 🙂
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Most people think these claims really did take place but no longer do
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Such pieces of advice don’t count. Barbaric to have come from a good and wise god
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John, what is really fascinating is reading the reasoning folk give for explaining why these instructions were placed in the Bible. I gather the most popular explanation is that it was likely some sort of divination practice.
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What is shocking is they made it to the bible
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The one most people really struggle with is the instruction not to wear clothes made of two types of different type of fabric. All I can assume there is that God never had to iron a pure cotton shirt.
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Hahaha Peter, you have a point there.
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Not a word about outlawing slavery or the importance of education and water purification, but cooking and barbecuing tips, ABSOLUTELY!
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There is nothing wrong with slavery. Dietary rules or the size of the altar are much more important
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Doesn’t count. The advice was either barbaric or useless
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Doesn’t count. He took them to Egypt and while parting the sea, drowned the Egyptian army
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[…] are aware of this challenge. I asked James of Isaiah 53 to answer either here or on his blog, and out of kindness he dug out an […]
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You don’t know that turning Lott’s wife into a pillar of salt wasn’t good…
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Agreed. Nothing like a life size condiment for Yahweh’s table.
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endless supply of salt to save the people from rickets.
I forgot this one great good, my bad.
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