matter and space


here, we did ask what a timeless existence would look like.

To close this set of questions, we ask what did god use to create matter?

If, as the apologist insists, god created space, where was god before? Did he create several chunks of space or just one big enough chunk? How was god moving in a space-less existence?

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

34 thoughts on “matter and space

  1. KIA says:

    Not sure they will ever admit the don’t or can’t know. It’s fully a matter of faith which means it would be doubt/sin to even ask.
    Their pride and fear both don’t allow for honesty

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  2. Arkenaten says:

    The ”I dont know” gambit is the sole (soul?) preserve of atheists.
    They can’t use it!

    To close this set of questions, we ask what did god use to create matter?

    If several other traditions are anything to go by then semen would be a Top Contender, which falls neatly into the atheist assertion that if this god exists he is nothing but a wanker.

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  3. Is there pizza in a timeless, spaceless place? If not, it must suck. Are things invisible there, and if so, how do you know? If something’s flying around a timeless, spaceless realm which we can neither see or experience, how can we know it’s there? Where is “there” when referring to a timeless, spaceless realm? Why aren’t people who believe in such non-sense labeled mentally ill? Again, the four words theists can not say, “I do not know.”

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  4. ladysighs says:

    How was god moving? Have you forgotten your Sunday School lessons so quickly? 😦 In mysterious ways, dumb dumb!

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  5. Aquileana says:

    Hi there, dear Makgautu… such an interesting discussion…
    You reminded me of Kant´s The First Antinomy (of Space and Time) from the Critique of Pure Reason… which states the following…

    –Thesis:
    The world has a beginning in time, and is also limited as regards space.

    –Anti-thesis:
    The world has no beginning, and no limits in space; it is infinite as regards both time and space.

    What is interesting to highlight is that according to Kant both thesis and anti thesis are logically conclusive, despite they are contradictory one with regard to the other… The conclusion drawn by Kant would therefore be that it is not possible a rational and scientific knowledge of the “world” considered as a whole…

    ((If you are interested, you can check out the arguments for the First Antinomy here http://www.meta-religion.com/Philosophy/Biography/Immanuel_Kant/First_antinomy.htm#.VmWHK9LhCmU ))

    All my best wishes. Aquileana 😀

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    • makagutu says:

      You knew I would be interested.
      I will have to reread the critique of pure reason. Maybe this is why some people have concluded the universe is irrational. I will try and get a link sometime tomorrow

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  6. Peter says:

    These sort of questions always made my head hurt, so I would say either ‘Holy Mystery’ or there is a different ‘spiritual realm’ where God exists.

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  7. john zande says:

    M E T A P H Y S I C S… It’s powered by Jesus Juice.

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  8. exrelayman says:

    It’s an inside out phenomenon. Outside of time and space is totally inside their imaginations.

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  9. shelldigger says:

    This one is EASY! The space between the apologists fucking ears doesn’t matter!

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