seven reasons why god exists


I don’t know what is funny, the post or the comment by one SOM. I think this post was put together by an ignoramus.

In this second post, the author claims atheists argue that evil disproves god. If only he had read a little, he would have found the argument to be that evil disproves the notion of a wholly good and loving god. For a prophet of a wholly evil god, Zande I am looking at you, evil is not a problem that should be explained.

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

38 thoughts on “seven reasons why god exists

  1. john zande says:

    6. Jesus was awesome and trusted by smart people.

    LOL! Well, i’m convinced!

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  2. authorluke says:

    Mak, the question you pose to John, “How does one even get through to such a one?” is something I can briefly address. In the not so distant past, I was “one.” While sharing ideas, thoughts, perspectives and questioning inexplicable beliefs can help a person see the world through a different lens, ultimately, it is simply up to the person to decide…to choose. What helped me the most were discussions–questions posed to me–that forced me to “think” first and respond. What happens, many times, is the queried person gets angry, defensive, then offensive and finally retreats (that can actually happen on all sides of discussions.) But, the questions remain and if the person finally asks themselves in the light of truth and honesty: “What do I believe?” and “Are my beliefs real, true, valid and something I can explain?” then…things happen. It did with me. I appreciate the questions you, John, Ark and others tossed at me, challenging my thinking. Have a great day…and keep on questioning 🙂

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    • makagutu says:

      This is quite helpful. In the long run it appears to be personal effort or rather a commitment to skepticism that can result in change of opinions.

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      • authorluke says:

        Mak, It’s even more than opinions that change…it’s the way a person reasons and “thinks.”

        For me, if a person chooses to willfully ignore truth, reality, facts…that is their choice…their life. It is. If I choose to believe in ghosts, goblins and Santa Claus, I am free to do so. People are free to believe–in private– what they want to believe, even if it is “wrong.” Trying to coerce thinking is what “they” do–something reason should oppose. They need to choose–to think independently, or they simply will change with the wind of whoever is blowing the strongest. And, they too must then deal with the consequences of their choices.

        But, if a person “inflicts” or attempts to force those same personal, private “beliefs” on others, such as teaching myths over science, promoting fiction instead of facts and indoctrinating the response of fear over reason…then I believe the promoters of those beliefs are fair game to challenge and question their thinking, motivations and intentions. It is no longer private matters of choice–they are attempting to change minds and, in doing so, people are free to question and debate others now non-private beliefs.

        I posted a discussion between Dawkins and Tyson (it’s long but worth the listening) where they discuss a differing perspective: Tyson’s is less confrontational, refusing to go out of his way to challenge someone’s private, individual beliefs and instead devote time to sharing reason and rational thought with as many people as possible, only publicly challenging a person(s) when they attempt to promote faux teachings–Dawkins, much more forcefully, believes if a person, especially someone teaching others (inclusive of parents) have potentially harmful beliefs they are going to pass on, those people must be challenged at every turn (even in the example of a science teacher who teaches evolution but privately believes in a young earth–Dawkins believes the persons beliefs will prejudice their teaching…and they may) Both Dawkins and Tyson may be right…depending on the specific issues, people and circumstances.

        What is interesting to me is that religion is part of evolving as a species. Our ancestors created religion(s) / myths as a way to find some order, peace and understanding of what may be inexplicable events, emotions and natural occurrences. The process of natural selection, itself, created “religion” and superstitions to help explain what people could not seemingly explain at the time. People would chuckle if a person said they believed in and worshiped Zeus and other gods in 2016….but, many of those people chuckling at belief in Zeus adhere to their own set(s) of similar mythological stories and beliefs, not seeing the correlation Zeus has with currently popular deities.

        But, adhering to those same mythologies originating in our ancestral past, when people “believed”and claimed to “know” the sun orbited a flat earth, with an unrelenting “faith” now, in a much different age of scientific thought and knowing truth from fiction…those choices can harm a person and society, at large. They can–and they do. Especially if they are promoting their beliefs for fact/truth overlooking reality. For me, the thought of some people being parents, brain-washing and indoctrinating their children with mythologies, is now…repugnant.

        For me, I will not go out of my way to find a religious extremist–they seem to find me. If they choose to not listen, then at least they will hear a question or two along the way, possibly something they will think about…and even plant a seed of change.

        Have a great day–best, luke

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  3. tildeb says:

    Oh, the irony.

    SOM knows all about getting ‘something from nothing’: that describes his vacuous beliefs about atheists. SOM demonstrates this by his confusion between the silence of his mind and its absence when he talks about atheists yet he still produces anti-atheist beliefs he thinks are true. See? Something from nothing!

    That’s what non belief does to some of the more irrational faitheists it causes great confusion for the gullible who presume that it’s perfectly fine for religious beliefs -when supposedly anointed but never annotated by god – to define reality Non belief turns that order on its head and assumes that reality itself is up to the job to inform beliefs about it. Because SOM is unwilling to trust reality – and all other faitheists unsure if they should – all he has is his beliefs – whether they may be true or not – and they suffice for him. Hey, if the tin foil hat fits…

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  4. ladysighs says:

    My favorite is #7 . Ask God to reveal Himself – you won’t be disappointed.

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  5. SoM’s comment has made my day. His is a form of bat-shit crazy that I’ve not ever come across before. What a guy.

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  6. fojap says:

    Re. no. 7: I did and I was.

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  7. The “Seven Reasons” and SOM’s comment are equally not funny because they provide direct evidence of cognitive derangement in humans.

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  8. Eric Alagan says:

    “My offering is on its way through pigeon transport”
    Wow! We ate our birdie postman many moons ago – tasted good too. Now, is that evil or what – eating a bird that came through hail and storm to deliver a message. Interesting that one has to kill to survive…

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