If you are an atheist, you may need to be careful as you make travel plans around the world, especially if your itinerary may land in a Muslim majority country.
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Makes me think of this:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/comic/veil/
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XD
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That was funny
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Their targets seem to be various: Muslim apostates, atheists, and anyone who doesn’t accept Allahas the one true whatever. The one thing that unites them however is that they want to see non-Muslims killed. So at least that’s clear.
South America is my preferred travel destination. I spikka da lingo and the problems are different. I’d be tempted to go back to Morocco as it’s near and cheap and I had a mostly good experience there. But it was nearly 20 years ago …
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That’s the problem of religion inspired violence; anyone who doesn’t believe as you do is almost an apostate or a blasphemer and for the love of god, should be killed.
Is Mexico in the south? I wouldn’t want to hear my beautiful friend was kidnapped
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drug gang inspired violence can be pretty bad, too. In El Salvador, the gangs have basically taken over most of the neighborhoods in cities. They post sentries, and if you are part of the wrong Clica, you can die.
Fighting the gangs is not fun, either. Rio De Janeiro police have killed thousands.
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You are right. I read somewhere in Mexico there are towns where no one wants to be police chief, you will be popped.
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In one comment, the writer doesn’t specify whether or not atheists should be killed, just that they are.
Maybe if they got rid of their laws about apostasy, we’d find there aren’t that many Muslims after all.
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It could be the threat of death hanging over their heads that stops them from coming out in public
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Well, they may want to kill atheists and such, but ya must admit, there’s a great deal of love behind what they’re saying. Idjits.
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You inspired me:
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Love it.
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Even the killings are in the name of love
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And once you are dead, then the REAL FUN starts. The Three Omni sky god gets to torture you for eternity for the entertainment of his acolytes and slaves.
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that was there is real entertainment. Fire and brimstone they say
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Oh. Dear. I spend a lot of time thinking about how hard it’s been to deconvert in my own super religious family/community, but I’ve never had to worry about being murdered for my disbelief. I remember hearing this last summer how an atheist blogger was hacked to death in the streets of bangladesh with people wielding machetes. Mak, I hope you’re careful when you’re traveling to different countries for your work!
Of note, I noticed how one guy said “atheist faggots” should be put to death. Does he think atheism is part of homosexuality? I’m just curious as to how those two words got chained together.
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That’s almost as sensible as when the christian right here in America calls Obama a radical atheist Muslim. Yep. That makes sense. Some people are just idjits.
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the day I will understand how someone can be an atheist and a Muslim at the same time, I will write a book. That will be a eureka moment
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The world is a strange place V. And there are crazy people out there.
Well, I don’t know how atheist and homosexuality are linked.
How are you doing and how is the young one getting on?
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Things are going quite well over here in Minnesota, Mak. I worked for about 7 months as a private duty nurse, but in the end my disabled body couldn’t take it so my last day was 1/31. While I miss the money I’m doing a lot better physically now that I’m not working. My son is doing so well he doesn’t even fit the criteria of autism anymore, and he’ll be attending a regular kindergarten next year. Things are definitely looking up from a year ago! Have a hug!
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I am glad i asked. It is great news that the boy has made such progress.
I think a bit of rest will do you good. You could take up some job after a break
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Wonderful for your son, sorry you’re not feeling well. Hope your feeling better soon. Hugs
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Thank you, Scottie!
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Some of that’s actually quite funny.
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Somewhere in the world there’s a cutie who wants to kill you slowly with a fruit knife John . . .
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See, that was pure gold!
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I thought so too.
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As a secularist, I avoid visiting any country that mixes government with religion; and, there are no countries I avoid more than ones dominated by Muslims particularly those in the Middle East. However, the danger is not one-sided nor is it so straightforward. Shiite Muslims would be as unsafe in Sunni Muslim nations, and vice versa. Atheists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists would be unsafe in either case. Muslims of all sects aren’t very safe in America right now especially in the Deep South where an atheist fellow blogger of ours has been continually harassed and threatened by his “good” god-fearing Christian coworkers and neighbors. Muslims are being routinely persecuted in Israel, and Muslim refugees are facing hostile receptions in Europe. This is a multi-faceted problem.
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Very true. I’d hate to be a Muslim in certain parts of America right now. Let’s not forget what we did to the Japanese Americans here during WW2 either. Hatred and persecution of what one group deems as the “evil other” is a trait humanity shares as a whole. Unless we learn to see ourselves, and the groups we belong to, as potentially being that “other,” I feel we’re doomed to be stuck in this self-destructive, hateful rut forever.
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Bravo, Jeff. Very well said.
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And the Chinese before that.
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You are right Bob. There is danger in many places
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[…] just returned home from Somalia a few days ago, put up a post, alerting atheists who are Considering Visiting Muslim Majority Countries. He gave a link to the Godless Spellchecker’s blog in which GS posted translations of what […]
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I watched a show about how atheist bloggers are being murdered in Muslim countries and the authorities are not doing anything. Many are having to flee because even their families reject them because they could be killed as well.
I told my son, if we are captured, do not say you’re a Christian and I won’t say I’m an atheist… We will just be quiet. No need to give them extra reason to kill us. We were traveling around the world when a lot of terrorist activity happened all at once.. That’s why I told him that.
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It is sad that they are killing others for difference of opinion. If they believe their gods are powerful, why do their dirty work?
Hope you were safe in your travels
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Mak, look at it this way, Yahweh and Allah are in a competition to see who can get the most blood spilled in their honor…yick!
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and we here all along thought it was the same god, the god of the Jews
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Interesting how violent they are. Killing, beheading etc.
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All of it for love of god
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If that god is so powerful, it is astonishing that such violence is needed. That god should be able to take care of the problem of infidels himself.
I think there is something like a process of evolution of religions. Fear and violence can be used both to stabilize a religion and to spread it. If the result of loosing your faith is to be killed, you better don’t, or at least you don’t talk about it. A religion containing such mechanisms will spread very successfully, especially when it is coupled with political and military power, as Islam has been from the moment the prophet became the political leader of Medina. This process should lead to more and more violent forms of religion. For example, the islamic state of the prophet and his immediate successors tolerated other religions to some extent (under the rules of their law), but now we see new forms of Islam where this is no longer the case.
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There is some evolution involved. The history of Christianity provides lessons for how a religion can evolve from obscure, to violence to relative stability over time.
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The Saudi king did make a comment sometime ago that all atheists are terrorists (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-declares-all-atheists-are-terrorists-in-new-law-to-crack-down-on-political-dissidents-9228389.html).
Out of sheer boredom and maybe a little curiosity, I downloaded the Quran to read. I couldn’t finish any one full chapter because of the violence it advocates against non-believers. It makes “unbelief” the worst crime punishable by thrashing a sword in the person’s ribs. But I still think that such barbarous actions can only be carried out by an innately violent people. Which begs the question whether the religion actually makes the people or the people make the religion.
Christianity on the other hand has quickly evolved to be more accommodating, even reaching out to unbelievers often in a peaceful manner. By the way, If you must travel to any of those countries infected by this irrationality, I think you had better get your turban on and know a few Islamic prayers.
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I think I had read that link on about Saudi Arabia. I guess the king is misinformed.
Quickly? It took centuries for Christianity to change. They burned witches till the 18th century and in some places still do, albeit on a smaller scale.
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At the moment, Christianity is the less violent of the two frauds. At the time when people were accused of witchcraft or heresy and burned, I think it was a general era of dimness of the human mind with Christianity simply glossed over.
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Unless one is a “difficult” child (or one too many mouths to feed) then the good peaceful Christian villagers will determine you are a witch and kill or torture you.
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Not everyone who proclaims Christianity understands it and I am not even a Christian. But I am a moralist. Those who kill innocent children do it out of plain ignorance. Almost every culture, in all parts of the world, has hitherto involved itself in some form of ritualistic killing of “the unfit”. Even today the so called civilized world has a way of eliminating those who don’t fit into their civilized society by lethal injection.
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