Deregister the atheist group


Says religious leaders. Atheism is against the constitution. The country believes in god and has feelings

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About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

62 thoughts on “Deregister the atheist group

  1. Mordanicus says:

    … and then deregister the groups who worship the wrong god…

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  2. Barry says:

    So the religious leaders want President Uhuru Kenyatta and his Deputy William Ruto to invest most of their time in preaching reconciliation and peace nationwide except where atheists are involved?

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  3. As an American, I say, first, deregister all non Americans. The only people Jesus cares about, no matter where in the world you are, are Americans. Jesus and a few old white guys founded America in the early 1950’s as a haven for theocratic christians and old white guys. So, therefor, only America matters in the world, and only Americans count. Deregister the non Americans in Kenya and make Jesus proud!

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  4. john zande says:

    Sorry Bishop Margaret, but you can go and fuck yourself.

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  5. Violet says:

    I was a bit confused that the article talked about the damn atheists in the first half, and then went on to talk about corruption in the last half. Are they insinuating atheists are the cause of governmental corruption, or was that a separate topic?

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  6. tildeb says:

    Isn’t that because atheism comes with a set of fundamental tenets that promote intolerance-and-bigotry-of-the-atheist-kind (I seem to have read that in a testimonial somewhere recently)?

    We can’t have that in Kenya.

    Bigotry and intolerance of the religious kind is by definition ‘good’ and represents ‘religious freedom’ so I don’t know what all you nasty atheist people are complaining about.

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  7. Arkenaten says:

    An ignorant nutter.

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  8. nannus says:

    What exactly is the constitution saying about this?

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    • makagutu says:

      I don’t think she would know what the constitution says.
      In the preamble it recognizes the supremacy of god. Beyond that, nothing. It says the constitution is the supreme law of the land, there shall be no state religion. It says elsewhere

      Freedom of conscience, religion, belief and opinion
      (1)
      Every person has the right to freedom of conscience, religion, thought, belief and opinion.
      (2)
      Every person has the right, either individually or in community with others, in public or in private, to manifest any religion or belief through worship, practice, teaching or observance, including observance of a day of worship.
      (3)
      A person may not be denied access to any institution, employment or facility, or the enjoyment of any right, because of the person’s belief or religion.
      (4)
      A person shall not be compelled to act, or engage in any act, that is contrary to the person’s belief or religion

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  9. shelldigger says:

    I read this “the constitution which recognises Kenya as a country that believes in God.” And wondered how is it that a few countrymen can’t decide they don’t believe?

    Ludicrous.

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    • makagutu says:

      Maybe the country believes. We are not the country and as such we don’t believe 🙂
      Maybe she is following from the SCOTUS that ruled corporations are people

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      • shelldigger says:

        Maybe the default position of theists everywhere is to steamroll anything that doesn’t agree with them…

        That might be my biggest complaint with believers, they want everyone to be just like them, and will will resort to almost anything to get rid of something they don’t care for.

        Religion and oppression go hand in hand.

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        • makagutu says:

          Religion and oppression are bedmates.
          All they do is change position on which is on top or sometimes they are both effing you from behind

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          • tildeb says:

            Most believers I encounter honestly presume there is no oppression, that they are not demanding any oppression, only submission. Because they themselves have already ‘submitted, they do not see themselves as oppressing anyone but merely advocating for the same submission. In their mind, this is seen as fair and just. And they can hide behind scripture to avoid taking any personal responsibility for this advocacy and instead paint it to be working for God, being pious, doing one’s duty, being a good religious person.

            The best way to demonstrate why this advocacy is oppression and not merely shared submission is to change the rules to that of some other religion and then reapply the same submission reasoning. All of sudden, many believers finally get it: they have been doing to others what themselves do NOT want done to them. And this reminder rings a bell…

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        • basenjibrian says:

          It’s tribalism, the inherent curse of mankind (and most higher primates!)

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  10. The Transparency International’s annual corruption index ranks Kenya at 145th out of 174 nations. Approximately 83% of Kenya’s population is Christian, about 11% Muslim. Two percent identify as atheist. As you are well aware, your country is predominately Christian, ranked in the top 10 of the most religious countries in the world, Kenya is also ranked as having some of the worst corruption in the world. I’m not surprised at all to learn that Margaret Wanjiru got filthy rich by preaching the prosperity gospel. She is ranked #1 as the wealthiest pastor in Kenya.

    From your article: “Bishop Wanjiru said religious leaders should be allowed to regulate themselves instead of the government coming up with laws that are not acceptable and which seek to curtail their freedom.”

    This is an interesting statement from her. The new rules require pastors, rabbis, imams, and other religious leaders to obtain certificates of good conduct and clearance from the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission.

    Wanjiru was listed #4 in the top 10 con pastors in Kenya. The atheist group in Kenya is just re-posting the list (linked below). “Dr.” Victor Kanyari was a fellow con pastor.

    https://atheistsinkenya.com/2014/11/06/kanyari-releases-a-full-list-of-fellow-con-pastors-who-are-stealing-in-the-name-of-the-lord-in-kenya/

    Mak, I read where she wants to run for governor there in 2017. She went back to school to get a real degree. LOL Apparently her other degrees, including a PhD, came from unaccredited colleges.

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  11. lexborgia says:

    Why don’t these people who insist on their right to discriminate ‘under the law’ simply argue the law in a court of law? If atheism, as a matter of interpretation is considered a threat to/betrayal of the state, then they should – seeing as a registered society is ‘hard evidence’ in relation to hearsay – bring a suit for ‘treason’ and prove their case.

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    • makagutu says:

      privately, I think they know this would not bring them the desired result.

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      • lexborgia says:

        Well then, seeing as the constitution only demands belief in God without respect to which or what kind of God the atheist need only define God from their perspective (e.g.: all that is considered good within a humanbeing) and profess belief in said thing. Problem solved for everyone.

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        • makagutu says:

          the constitution guarantees freedom of religion or lack of it.
          the churches if they are not happy can have a referendum to amend the constitution. I think it I would love it

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  12. Ron says:

    Dear Ms. Wanjiru,

    I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

    Paul, Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savor

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  13. Real real me says:

    What? Everyone is entitled to believe or not to believe in whatever they want, I doubt that this will make a change…

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    • makagutu says:

      It will make a big change, not the one they expect. It has brought the discussion of atheism to the national psyche and those who are curious will want to find out what it is

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