Here is the


Explanation for why church numbers are dwindling

The church is fighting over, and breaking up over homosexuality. There are other issues, but the overriding issue is homosexuality and homosexual ‘marriage’. Ms. Evans position of one of opening and affirming homosexual ‘marriage’, and has been fighting tooth and nail since World Vision’s decision in 2014.

Who would have known this was the reason?

this is an interesting piece

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22 thoughts on “Here is the

  1. Bigotry against a group of people is what’s cutting down numbers on church attendance, eh? Good riddance to churches.

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  2. havent’ thought of Guideposts in years. my aunt always had it in the magazine rack.

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  3. My sentiments exactly

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  4. ubi dubium says:

    I think that “millennials are leaving over homosexuality” is an oversimplification of a bigger pattern. I see churches who ought to be dealing with real issues instead doubling down on their old dogma. Catholics are ignoring their church’s stance on birth control? Then the church bureaucrats think they just need to preach it harder. Young evangelicals are having doubts? it must be that they aren’t having the bible thumped hard enough at them. Kids are becoming more accepting of gays? Time to preach the bigotry harder!

    And I’m actually for this doubling down, because it helps young people to start asking themselves the important questions of why they are listening to preachers at all. It’s helping the churches shrink. As Princess Leia so wisely observed, “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

    I also read the linked article, and saw this quote from Rachel Held Evans:

    “At the same time, I don’t think you can be a Christian alone. I think you need some kind of community of other Christians around you.”

    I think that says a lot. I’ve known a lot of atheists who have spent a long time being an “atheist alone” and been just fine, including me. If a religion requires that you have a community around you to support your faith, that doesn’t say much for the solidity of that belief.

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    • I completely agree, this is an obvious oversimplification. Although gay marriage proponents have been fighting for equality for many years, it didn’t become a divisive public issue until recently when court systems began affirming it. Before that, declining trends in religious participation have been documented for several decades.

      Also, I’d like to point out that declining religious participation is not directly correlated to declining beliefs in supernatural beings (i.e. gods). These are separate sociological phenomena. The former is related to declining trust in large social institutions, while the latter is related to the effects of education and information on individual spirituality.

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    • makagutu says:

      You need a community to help you hate. It is hard to do it alone, don’t you know.
      I think it is an oversimplification or a refusal to think of the global picture.

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  5. john zande says:

    Yep, because who people kiss overrides everything else.

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  6. http://www.faithinamerica.org/bigotry/

    “Dr. David Gushee, a Christian ethicist, author and Southern Baptist minister, wrote the following about CRISIS in the June 2009 issue of Christian Century (a mainline Protestant publication going to 70,000 members, largely clergy):

    “As an evangelical Christian whose career has been spent in the South, I must say I find it scandalous that the most physically and psychologically dangerous place to be (or even appear to be) gay or lesbian in America is in the most religiously conservative families, congregations and regions of this country. Many of the most disturbing stories in this volume come from the Bible Belt. This marks an appalling Christian moral failure.””

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    • makagutu says:

      I think he should be reminded Christianity has always been a moral failure. Any time it has been seen to support a progressive idea is when opposition threatens its numbers or continued existence as a monolithic group

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  7. Peter says:

    Just perhaps church numbers are declining because less people believe.

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  8. shelldigger says:

    Oh good, people are leaving because their goddamned priests are homosexual perverts.

    About time. 😉

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