This article says there is a scholar who believes it is ok.
This article says there is a scholar who believes it is ok.
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Where do these people have their heads, I should add that first off rape is not good, forcing yourself sexually on a woman be it muslim, Christian, whatever is just insane,
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I have concluded their heads are in the right place. It’s their arses that has moved to their heads
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Good point
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Again, we see the shear brilliance of religious thought at work. If a “scholar” were to suggest that the raping of Muslim men by non-Muslims should be allowed in order to teach Muslim men how awful rape is, would there be many complaints about it? I wonder.
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Brilliance, unbridled brilliance I tell you
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No
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It should be no brainer, right?
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No discussion needed.
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To even suggest it should not even be thought possible
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This is your brain on religion.
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I think so too. It is shameless to even think of it
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Great Scott!! Flame throwing bagpipes. I’m… thunderstruck.
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Now THAT is busking!
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The reality is that this is not that different to what is implied in the Old Testament. If in doubt read Number 31.
ISIS had prepared a rape guide based on Islamic laws for their fighters to follow.
The reality is that this scholar may be closer to the reality of what the religion really teaches than the various apologists that keep telling us “Islam is a religion of peace”.
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Peter you can hit the nail squarely on the head
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This is a valid point. We aren’t talking about morals, ethics, heaven forbid, women’s rights over their own bodies (qv your previous post Mak), we are talking about academic religion. So, in those terms, it will most certainly make sense. In the Big Three, women are objects and chattels without rights. Things haven’t changed that much … we just have a superficial veneer of western civilisation that suggests they have.
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The basic implication in the Bible, Old Testament, is that wives are essentially the property of their husband and unmarried girls the property of their father. This is the basis upon which relevant Bible laws are constructed.
I can’t speak for Islam in this regard but suspect it is similar.
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The big three view women the same way. As does society. Marital rape didn’t become illegal in the UK until 91, and 93 in America.
As I said, society has come a long way …
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I have just finished Emile and yes, I think we have come along way but a lot still ought to be done.
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And I suspect this is still true in most societies. Why does the father of the girl have to give her hand out to the would be husband while the man just shows up?
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I agree RS. I don’t think things have changed much
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Say what!!
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Religion of love and its defenders
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I HATE stating the obvious but here goes: NO! Rape is never okay.
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You know! How does one even suggest rape during war is ok when war itself is a bad enough thing in itself
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I have no idea my friend!
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Jackie, one ‘suggests’ it when one’s scripture endorses it. We’re also told that it’s all very peaceful from the religion that respects women. If you disagree, you deserve death.
See? All better now. The perfect word of God in action.
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Thank you for clarifying that!
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Ok. But context is the key here. Barring translation (or transcription) errors, she clearly states that said rape is strictly limited to “legitimate wars” between [believers] and their enemies for the purpose of humiliation–just like that other holy book. So the gods actually agree on this matter. And that makes all the difference
Shame on you for failing to make this important distinction.
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My bad. I apologise
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And I was having a perfectly fine day Mak. Now Hulk want to smash teh stoopid.
Every time someone suggests something like this you can bet it is justified in their books of ignorance. All religion is despicable. Likewise those who would use their religion and or their magic books to justify rape, slaughter, pillaging, and land acquisition.
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The worst part is there are people who think he is right in saying so
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You found only one ‘authority’ saying rape is okay?
Wow~!
I’m no authority but I dislike the bits where nice Moslems can have legitimate sex with little girls.
I guess the authorities will have to rewrite Brit and Eu laws to accommodate them … and there’s Muslim authorities permitting carnal knowledge of ladies as young as one-year-old.
(I pound the point in my ‘Cassandric’ blog but get no takers—I guess Mohammedans are too busy pounding babies to read ’em.)
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Mahomet’s guys are busy stoning or beheading others to engage you in a debate on pounding babies. They will come to you but maybe with a panga, be careful buddy
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If I ever see any it will be just a quick look …
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Hahaha,
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I think the Muslim justification for rape is that it is impossible, ‘cos woman with skirt up can run faster than man with pants down …
Therefore any ‘rape’ claims must be illegitimate. Anyway, the other guy’s women have always been legitimate trophies (spoils) of war.
(Did you note the reference to ‘possession’, there?)
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That explanation is a class above the rest!
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This is downright stupid and I think those who believe this is Islaam are downright ignorant.
If you knew true Islaamic law, you’d know that to harm women and children in any way even in battle, no matter what religion and race is expressly forbidden. Rape isn’t allowed in any circumstances, in any case to any person.
Isis IS NOT ISLAAM, their beliefs and actions are so contradictary to Islaam, they cannot even be called Muslim.
Learn true Islaam before branding Muslims and making claims, please.
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You are barking the wrong tree.
Pick it up with those who said it
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