If this idiot could be believed.
In arguing for his case, he ignores the terror activities in the last decade or so that have religion either at their core or among the contributing factors.
He also, like in this example,
The three men, who popularized atheism in the 19th Century, had almost the same experiences early in their lives, and there is a common psychological pattern evident in their later rebellion. Thomas Henry Huxley, Sigmund Freud and Friedrich Nietzsche all had psychological struggles in their early in their lives.
engage in personal attacks instead of dealing with the content of the said authors.
And in a case of projection, he writes
Rationalization is an atheist’s favorite psychological defense mechanism. They rely on false reasoning that sounds logical to negate the reality of God
And one wonders whether they know any atheists.
To end this post, I will comment on this last one
There is enough proof that atheism is a personality disorder. Atheists have among the highest suicide rates in the world.
What is wrong with suicide? If one finds their lives not worth continuing, they have a right to end it.
Mak, my friend, where did you find that crock of shit?
I am so not even considering the irrationality of it.
What has atheism to do with marriage, divorce, children, yak yak yak?
As for suicide, one might want to possibly factor in other reasons?
An attack on atheists saying religious people are deluded/mentally ill? Ain’t me who chats to a nonentity.
I rest my case.
For the record:
Married. Not divorced. Well, not yet.
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That blog is on a paper with national circulation! How they get such idiots to write their articles is a wonder
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Thoughtless and irresponsible. To say the least. It doesn’t inspire further words.
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I like the comments. Most people have called him out on the idiocy
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Fabulous! You’ve found your match! Both thoughtless *and* irresponsible.
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That this person doesn’t stumble over his own insinuations and condenscendence is a miracle in itself! Like seems the trend these days, he is making atheism and atheists suspicious on grounds that could at least equally well be applied to christians (christians? what special about their ‘faith’???). I glanced over the text and skipped most of it, due to the senselessness of the whole post. Sorry, I can’t read such stuff. 😉
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I tell you, miracles still happen. I doubt he read the post loudly to himself before posting. Had he done it, the idiocy and ignorance would surely have shocked him.
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Nah. The CERTAINTY of “faith” would prevent any such realizations, Maka.
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Faith must be a good thing. In the package is certainty 🙂
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There seems to be a psychological phenomena where people who follow some sort of irrational, phobic, or bizarre worldview or life practice incorporate the damaging words of their accusers, and shoot back using the same terminology.
Though they cling, tooth and claw, to their foolish beliefs, they are wounded by the words and force of their doubters, and must try to get back at them with duplicative retorts.
Not that I clicked on this moron’s dribblings – part of his brain is conceding the fight, the other is trying to hold on by lobbing back the same grenades.
Go Kenyan distance runners!
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You did well not to click on it. It leaves one with a bad aftertaste and a desire for a long bath
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What a load of horse shit. Massive projection and statistics yanked right from his ass. Delusion isn’t just a condition, apparently it is a life style.
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It is a lifestyle my friend.
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Again, my assumption here is this person is arguing from the christian view point. Those not accepting Jeebus the way he or she deems “correct” is an atheist with a personality disorder. I wonder, should I be a Satan worshiper and sacrifice geese to him every Saturday before dancing naked in the mud in my backyard, would I be considered NOT to have a personality disorder by this person? I’d most certainly not be an atheist, believing in Satan and all. I do wonder. Were the ancient Greeks suffering from a disorder of some sort because Jeebus and Yahweh were fucking with them by waiting a few thousand more years before revealing themselves to those heaven was truly made for, a group of poor Jews in the Roman-ruled Middle East? Funny. When it comes to personality disorders, I’d say christianity is certainly one in and of itself. Virgin births, resurrections, floating full-bodied into the heavens: if belief in these ludicrous things doesn’t warrant the need for the use of high Thorazine dosages, nothing else ever will.
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Virgin births, transporter fish, talking donkeys and snakes are all plausible. Questioning them, now that is being psychotic!
God was busy waiting for his chosen group before he could come and commit suicide
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After other factors were controlled, studies found that greater moral objections to suicide was a major contributing factor. In other words, their conditioning made them fear the consequences, i.e., eternal torment.
As far as there being a higher divorce rate among atheist— not so in the U.S. In fact, conservative Christians have a significantly higher divorce rate than your more moderate to liberal Christians or unbelievers. The data showed that the highest divorce rates were found in the Bible Belt.
I LOL’d at the ranting about how unhappy we are. If there’s unhappiness, it’s most likely due to having to put up with their incessant fear mongering, obsession with controlling others, not to mention being ostracized by family and community. Studies show that isolation is a major contributing factor in depression.
One last note: If I found out I was terminally ill, I wouldn’t think twice about moving to a state that has “death with dignity” laws (assistant suicide.)
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I should probably clarify that 1st paragraph — I was referring to believers.
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I don’t know where this trope of unhappy atheists comes from.
In Kenya, the % of atheists is so small to be negligible but divorce and separation is reported daily. Maybe it’s atheists driving them to divorce.
The many objections to suicide, I think, are mainly religious.
I, too, would chose to go a country that allowed assisted suicide
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It’s definitely not atheism driving driving them to divorce. A 2014 study published in the American Journal of Sociology found that people who live in conservative religious counties or communities had a higher risk of divorce even when they were not affiliated with a conservative religious group.
https://contemporaryfamilies.org/impact-of-conservative-protestantism-on-regional-divorce-rates/
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Why is there this DEMAND that we be HAPPY? Sometimes life sucks, for a variety of reasons.
Their God created this vale of tears, so to demand that we ignore trials and tribulations and be HAPPY seems disgusting to me. Certainly a conspiracy by the priesthood of TOOAIN. 🙂
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Yes, if you are a faithful follower than you are to rejoice in your trials and tribulations, and count it all joy for you are partakers in Jesus’ sufferings — and heaven forbid you should complain. Those types of teachings just fuck with a person’s head and pile on more guilt and shame for being human.
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I think that is the intent of the priestly family; fuck up the minds of everyone
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I also don’t recall anywhere they are told to be happy.
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Everybody has psychological struggles of one form or another. It’s called being human, and no amount of religion is going to change that. Even though I don’t self-identify as atheist, I’d much rather be associated with the likes of Thomas Henry Huxley, Sigmund Freud and Friedrich Nietzsche than some Christian wacko who builds fake arks in Kentucky and profits from the gullibility of his followers.
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I think I agree
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Errrum, the inly figures I’ve ever seen identifying suicides counts numbers among professions, and dentists have the highest suicide rate.
Who counts atheists? I think this fellow should divulge his sources. I think he might just be making things up.
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If this >Top 10 least religious countries in the world by perception (Source: US News)
1. Australia
2. Sweden
3. Germany
4. Netherlands
5. New Zealand
6. Luxembourg
7. Denmark
8. Canada
9. France
10. Austria
Top 10 least religious countries in the world (Source: Washington Post)
1. China
2. Sweden
3. Czech Republic
4. Hong Kong
5. Netherlands
6. UK
7. Israel
8. Japan
9. Germany
10. Australia
Top 10 countries with highest suicide rates (Source: wikipedia)
(atheist numbers from CIA world factbook and rounded down or up)
1. Guyana – 4% atheist
2. South Korea – 43% atheist
3. Sri Lanka – 0% atheist
4. Lithuania – 6% atheist
5. Suriname – 0% atheist
6. Mozambique – less than 4% atheist
7. Tanzania – 0% atheist
8. Nepal – 0% atheist
9. Kazakhstan – 3% atheist
10. Burundi – 8% atheist
Is true, he is getting his stats from his ass
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Well, those are some awkward facts for our lying apologist friend.
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You don’t need facts in a religious fight. Any evidence will do.
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Fiction can be powerfully persuasive 😉
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It is. And many believe fiction
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So basically, this Dickhead’s premise is:
If you do not believe in an imaginary omniscient, meglomaniacal genocidal deity who considers eternal torture to be the only alternate choice to not believing in him you are obviously insane?
Er …
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Yes, kinda I think.
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They truly are stark raving bonkers. I frequently pause when in dialogue with people like SOM and Color storm and such like and realize, Yes, these people truly do believe in what they write.
When you realize this it can sometimes be very disconcerting.
And of course we have ISIS to remind us how other religious nut jobs are.
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You are a much more tolerant person than I am. I don’t engage som if I can help it
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The man doth project too much, methinks.
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I think you are right
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Oh, this is so illogical!
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I know.
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Hahahahaha!!! Atheism is NOT a mental illness…religion is!!! I went from being super religious…born again, saved, baptized, spreading the word of god to an atheist. Atheism is not anti-god….you have to believe in something to be against it. Atheism is lacking theism…simply believe in no religion or god. I once believed in God, Jesus, heaven, the bible and now I believe there is no god whatsoever and religion is just used for power and comfort. Read my blog to read more about how religion is crippling society!
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I don’t think you mean I should read your blog to know how religion is crippling society. You’ll notice that is part of what this humble blog covers
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yes atheist has high suicide rate but does it mean logic and arguments they give us is also wrong.
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Is it really the case that atheists commit suicide much more than the rest of the population?
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Not according to the stats:
List of countries by suicide rate
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Kenya is so high up in the list. And almost everyone claims they are religious
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I’d expect them to argue that all the suicides were committed by closeted atheists. Mind you, that would contradict the claims of those who state there are no real atheists—just deniers of God who want to sin with impunity.
Guess we’ll just have to chalk it up as another paradox.
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It’s a paradox and a big one at that. I don’t think they would insist, with credibility, that those who committed suicide were closet atheists
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With credibility, no. But lack of credibility hasn’t deterred Ken Ham from pronouncing there are no atheists.
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I don’t think the Hambo cares about credibility as long as he is making money
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Hey Mak. ran into this post. Wow. Lots of assertions and assumptions from that guy. lol.
Interesting to note: “The great majority of people who experience a mental illness do not die by suicide. However, of those who die from suicide, more than 90 percent have a diagnosable mental disorder… 90% of suicides involve individuals suffering from mental illness.” http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/02/05/the-relationship-between-atheism-and-suicide-is-more-nuanced-than-these-christians-think/
I think the problem with suicide is that it does bring sadness and suffering to those surrounding it.. for instance, If I suddenly decided to end my life, it would cause suffering to those in my life that love me, and to those I am responsible to.
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Some people live on making assumptions about others, I think.
I would be very sad if I were to hear you did yourself in.
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