Allallt has in the linked post argued against the claim made by the believers in the Judeo-Christian god that we are created in his image. I see no need to repeat his arguments here.
In my village, we say, if a mad man takes your clothes while you are bathing in the river, don’t run after him, there will be difficulty in telling who the mad one is. And it is so that I have made a point of not responding to a madman, SoM, whenever he tries to drag me down a rabbit hole. But I will respond to his absurd claim here.
First he asks me to explain how everything made itself, a reply, he seems to write everywhere. In my comment on the OP, I make no comment or allusions to the origin of things. And so far as I can tell, I don’t know neither does the madman SoM know. The bible, Koran or whatever book isn’t evidence.
His next question regards my comment that the bible and its god is myth. He asks if I, too, is a myth. This question requires no answer. It must have been asked by an idiot with access to the internet. Only a deluded individual will think his god is rather special and all other stories of gods are myths. All groups of people have their creator gods, that the Hebrew one is prominent in some parts of the world is due simply to warfare and deception. Nothing more.
I am open to be persuaded I am wrong in calling the Judeo-Christian god myth. To do that I want evidence. The bible doesn’t qualify. Your grandmother seeing a vision is not evidence. Finding a parking slot is not evidence. Finding lost socks, John Z, I am looking at you, is not evidence.
Of course, for som and cs, these requests for actual evidence will just bring more of their silliness.
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And I do my best to ignore silliness
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Not mine I hope!
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Not yours
When you are silly, it is humorous
SoM and his ilk have no capacity for humor
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KIA says:
DECEMBER 30, 2016 AT 11:37 AM
Made in God’s image… it would definitely seem that mankind is reflective of the image of god found in the bible. Violent, selfish, egotistical and narcissistic to a fault at times. Or should we be thinking in reverse? That this god of the Bible is reflective of the image of mankind, or ‘created’ in our image? Yup… over the droning objections of som and cs, this seems to be a more accurate ‘image’ or picture of the true situation.
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Jealous, cruel, unjust….name it. Or other times kind, magnanimous, peaceful. We are all products of nature with capacity for extremes
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I agree, we are all a mixture of extremes. Both good and evil. We ourselves are an alloy if you will of the molten lead, copper, silver and gold we create our idols and gods with. They are molded and shapen in our image and likeness, not the other way around. Great post by the way
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Yes, we create gods in our image and likeness
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Of course, you know that SOM is a troll. The day is coming when he rips off the mask and yells, “Gotcha!”.
The other one just appears to be a plain vanilla dufus.
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My friend, whatever SoM is on, I want it too.
Cs is so off the rails there is no point in responding to his claims
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He’s high on Jesus (it’s in the communion wine).
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Here’s god’s image:
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Looks like it
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Lost socks, perhaps, but what about missing Tupperwear lids!?
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I know the Invisible Pink Unicorn took my lost socks (raptured to sock heaven) but I hadn’t thought about missing lids, because my usual problem is too many lids, and figuring out what they fit. Perhaps the socks are being reincarnated as lids?
Either way, I suspect Anoia, the Goddess of Things that get Stuck In Drawers, has some hand in it. You’d better respect her if you ever want to see your ladle again.
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I will make an exception for that Goddess of Things that get Stuck in Drawers
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The madman SoM can’t possibly be a real person. Even the wackiest of people aren’t that absurd. He must be a virtual character created by some internet troll.
As for John Z finding his missing socks, only a miracle could do that… lol!
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Hahaha. Even a miracle can’t help John with his socks.
I think I agree with you about SoM.
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If there were a WP contest for the person who’s been banned from the most blogs, SoM would surely win. Idjit is far too kind a word to describe him. Oh, BTW, tell Zande I found his socks. They somehow got into the casserole I made for dinner last night. Totally gross, I must say. How they got there, I’m sure I don’t know. One of the great mysteries of the universe.
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He is the one and only commenter I have banned from mine.
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Same here. By far a totally foul, angry person.
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And me. Along with spouting a bunch of rubbish, he was also insulting and being disrespectful to some of my visitors. That’s when I draw the line.
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Oh, he excels at that.
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One would think he is a stupid bot
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He is the only I banned. I can’t stand him.
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Same here
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That must have been a miracle.
Idjit is too polite and inadequate to describe SoM
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I find it hard to believe it…
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Makes two of us
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The general rule on the internet is: don’t feed the troll.
I once put an article on Wikipedia on the book of genesis into a Wikipedia category of “Mythology”, which it clearly is. The next moment, somebody had removed the link. This went on until I asked one of the Wikipedia admins for help because by removing the link and insisting (in a comment) that the book of Genesis is truth, he was violating the Wikipedia principle of neutral point of view. He finally left the category there after the admin intervened. The problem with mythology is that for people belonging to the respective religion, the mythology is not mythology but holy truth (you can use that as a definition of mythology: being mythology is the property of a story not to be mythology for some people, but a sacred text containing The Truth). On such topics, the Wikipedia approach does not really work, these articles will never become stable. One of the reasons I got a bit tired of writing Wikipedia articles and turned to blogging instead.
By the way, I whish you a happy new year (and to everybody else here)!
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Wishing you a prosperous 2017 too.
It’s always great hearing from you
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SOM. What little interaction I have had with him, I’d honestly rather just stub my toe, hit my thumb with a hammer, and get a wedgie all at the same time, than try to respond to his idiocy. Still occaisionally I have to respond, because well, some things just can’t stand uncontested.
My most recent, and perhaps last, reaction to one of his insultingly ignorant comments (something about how religion was used in history as a tool for power/therefore religion wins somehow? And that all atheists were Marxists) went something like this:
shelldiggersaid:September 27, 2016 at 12:57 pm
Your arguments are worthless sir.
In no certain order I will address some or your…umm, points?
Atheism does not address any of your vapid questions. It is a lack of belief based upon years of putting up with x-ian B.S. and plenty of actual evidence directly contradicting your magic book. We only address stupid questions by obviously ignorant people. Just in case someone reads crap like this and actually thinks it might have merit. It doesn’t.
Nearly all atheists are Marxists? I must have missed the memo. You are pulling pseudo facts out of your behind, don’t worry most x-ians do. There is a cream for that.
All religions are equally idiotic belief in nonsensical absurdities, none of which are supported by evidence.
Religion used by rulers to suit their purposes, and a great many people not using religion thusly are two separate issues, how you can turn that into “my religion wins and atheism is worthless” will take a psychologist and many years of therapy to figure out how you scrambled that into a win.
Strawmen are easily knocked down. Your entire post is bashing strawmen that don’t actually exist. Get a grip man. Your superiority complex is showing.
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silenceofmindsaid:January 1, 2017 at 8:51 am
Shelldigger,
Even though it’s clear that you didn’t really read my post, thanks for dropping anyway.
Here’s the infallible “all atheists are Marxists,” test.
Did you vote for Donald Trump?
If the answer is “no” you are a Marxist.
Also, there no references to the Bible in my post.
My post is all about science.
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(When he said his post was all about science I almost fell out of my chair, the stupid hit me that hard in the head)
shelldiggersaid:January 2, 2017 at 5:41 am
Just…wow.
Thank you SOM. I see the light very clearly now. You managed to get me to do some research. You should have that hyperreligiosity looked at. I am sure there is help for you if you would look for it.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=hyper%20christianity%2C%20mental%20state%3F
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You have a lot of patience my friend.
SoM is in his own class of crazy. He has created a reality where the bible is all the truth he needs and the Catholic Church the arbiter of that truth. Anything else that falls out of that matrix is to him atheist hallucinations
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Interacting with the guy is a peek into crazy land.
Honestly when he replied that his post was about science it hit me, something really wasn’t right upstairs. I won’t interact with him again (if I can keep myself from it) it isn’t fair engaging intellect with an unarmed man.
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I have managed to keep myself from talking to him. He has tried to bait me several times unsuccessfully. It’s like he doesn’t learn
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Then I shall try and follow your example.
Doesn’t learn? No, he is stuck in an endless loop of smug assed, Mr. superior britches, crazy.
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It works, I tell you
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“If you didn’t vote for tRump, you’re a Marxist.” Yeah. The only truth involving tRump is if you did for for him, you’re an idiot. My evidence? Simply read anything SoM writes, or, Google the words idiot and idjit. SoM’s picture will come up.
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When I Google lol, you come up 🙂
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I did that, and picture of a windup monkey banging 2 trash can lids together appeared with these words: “This windup monkey banging two trashcan lids together once won a Nobel Prize. $Amen$”
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If a darn monkey can get a Nobel I am certain yours is just a matter of time.
No! I didn’t just call you a monkey 😉
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I was heavily implying I WAS the monkey, so no offense taken. 🙂
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Oh, well then…you are a big fat monkey! With a wart on its nose, wearing a clown suit. And probably voted Republican in the election!
😉
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I don’t have a wart on my nose! How dare you!
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🙂 I got a chuckle out of that.
So, you did vote Republican then?
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Naw. I’m just being a wise ass, well, an ass at least.
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Well, as long as you are being an ass in a clown suit all is well 🙂
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You want him to chock? Vote Republican!
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Hahaha
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