The creation of the world


In the beginingi beginning

two thousand years before the heaven and the earth, seven things were created: the Torah written with black fire on white fire, and lying in the lap of God; the Divine Throne, erected in the heaven which later was over the heads of the Hayyot; Paradise on the right side of God, Hell on the left side; the Celestial Sanctuary directly in front of God, having a jewel on its altar graven with the Name of the Messiah, and a
Voice that cries aloud, “Return, ye children of men. (The Legend of the Jews, by Louis Ginzberg)

if you have believed what your bible says, you have believed a lie. Your bible is a lie. But this is not what interests us today.

If you are good Christians( for the Christians who follow this blog), as I guess you are, you have read the parable of the banquet.

I am sure however you have never seen it in this light as expressed here by the Curmudgeon (thanks Brian). He writes,

The parable of the banquet is a cynical joke at the expense of those who imagine that Jesus and His Father will reward them with anything better than slavery and degradation. Not satisfied with inviting those who cannot reward him, the rich man in the parable invites those who cannot even attend: everyone has some reason for staying away. Even when the poor, the crippled, the lame and the blind have been asked, there is still so much room to spare that the host orders his slave to force people to come.

Why should a rich man encounter such difficulties in getting people to attend his banquet? As soon as we recognise that the rich man represents the jealous, arbitrary and murderous Father, the answer becomes clear. The guests make their excuses because they know how the banquet will taste: how poisonous to the mind, how disgusting to the senses, how repulsive to the morals it will be. So awful is the menu that even the poor, the crippled, the lame and the blind have heard of its reputation and stay away in humiliating numbers. At last, like every tyrant, the spurned host is reduced to ordering people to put up with him.

I like this reading of the parable. I think it puts it in perspective and changes focus to the *real* banquet promised to believers, heaven.

What are your reactions to this reading of the parable? Do you find it persuasive? Is it flawed and how?

About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

30 thoughts on “The creation of the world

  1. nasimolo says:

    I read it differently. The people didn’t come for their hearts were already captured, they didn’t know better (their hearts were where they had their treasures- on external things, not within).

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    • makagutu says:

      why would his rich friends not show up to the part of the year? unless the one throwing the party is not an interesting fellow

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      • nasimolo says:

        Because he didn’t give a typical feast that engorges their mortal desires, he wanted to give them divine food (Mana, Soma) which looks plain and flat to those used to ‘spiced’ foods.

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        • makagutu says:

          how do you arrive at this and it is not in the poster for the party?

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        • basenjibrian says:

          So the Creator of the Universe can only provide pale imitations of the pleasures of the world? A world he himself created knowing it would be “fallen? Isn’t the creator of the universe, who knows everything from the beginning of time, responsible for “spiced” foods? Ultimately, who created us poor, failed beings? Knowingly created us, seeing at the beginning of time that the vast, vast majority of us would “fail” his contradictory, poorly communicated, and violent standards?

          To me, your religion basically posits an evil teen playing a video game that involves torturing characters acting out storylines prewritten into the code by Himself. I don’t see much “good news” in that?

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          • basenjibrian says:

            I would also note that since it is so very important (lest one be eternally….eternally I remind you…tortured), wouldn’t it behoove a perfect being to make it a little…easier…to do the searching and separating? And ensure that the answers are not so frequently contradictory to the point of blood century long wars, pogroms, and holocausts?

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          • nasimolo says:

            What most religions agree on, is that we are here to learn. Man being both a physical and spiritual being, he descends or ascends based on choice and past (incarnations,karma,original sin). Man creates his spiced food which mostly leads to descention into destruction (hell, suffering) but God, creator/ nature, gives a way out for ascention. This knowledge is not restricted to Christianity, it is knowledge from antiquity shared in myths, and philosophy from Plato, Socrates, Dante, Swedenborg etc. Pure religion (spiced food) is dogmatic, but looking broadly one can a common thread

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          • makagutu says:

            Knowingly created a people who would fail and then punish them for exactly that

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  2. This always seemed to be exactly what the curmudgeon indicated. We have a petty god that gets upset that it can’t get worshippers, which doesn’t make much sense in the context of the rest of the chapter, where JC says that it is a good thing to invite the poor, etc.

    It does make a bit more sense with what follows, where JC says that one must hate ones family (not dislike, not prefer god over them, but *hate*), but it still makes no sense that this god needs to force people to accept it. It also is a bit odd in that last bit that JC mentions the cross, something that no one knew about at that time in the story.

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  3. foolsmusings says:

    Sounds right on point. Most of the bible could easily be read in the same cynical way.

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  4. lexborgia says:

    Haters all. It was the biggest inauguration crowd ever. Period.

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  5. This reminds me, I’m hungry! Time for breakfast. 🙂

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  6. It’s an interesting parable which would resonate well in some cultures. In other cultures, such as in America where the “rich man” and his “banquet” are perversely idolized, I think it would be largely dismissed as moral flatulence. And, that’s a shame because if any culture needs moral guidance then America surely tops the list.

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  7. renudepride says:

    Actually, I think at this stage of the game ALL of humanity needs some guidance and some common sense. I was not familiar with this particular fable but the synopsis makes perfect sense to me! Naked hugs!

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  8. john zande says:

    He’s got a good way with words.

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    • makagutu says:

      he really does

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      • basenjibrian says:

        Phillip is a regular read for me. I simply love the British turn of phrase. As awful as they have been to much of the world, they did give us amazing literature and language.

        “Poor little Dominic Raab, the Minister in Name Only for Brexit, is having quite a time of it. Appointed to fill the shoes of the blustering prima donna David Davis (shoes which we can only hope the Civil Service has labelled L and R in a nice, clear sans-serif font), he immediately proved himself worthy of his predecessor by failing to have the appropriate paperwork ready for debate in the House of Commons. Then, while he was facing a committee and doing his best to break the English language in new and independent ways, the dead-eyed warden’s minions casually informed the Press that the actual work in Raab’s department would from now on be handled by the grown-ups in the Cabinet Office. Raab responded by spraying testosterone across the tabloids with a threat to renege on the agreement to pay our dues unless the Euro-wogs started playing fair”

        No American political writer would approach this cheeky level of satirical prose!

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        • basenjibrian says:

          On the other hand, in his utterly American, terribly foul mouthed way, I also do love “Heywood J” of http://hammeroftheblogs.blogspot.com/

          I promise….No more quoting other blogs 🙂

          “Even before the treasonous, openly collusive press conference this morning, the thing that should not be in office went on record just hours prior referring to the EU as a foe, to our closest allies as foes. That makes sense, since he’s been treating them as foes.

          He thinks NATO is one his fleabag “resorts,” where he sticks members for exorbitant rates to eat shitty meat loaf and watch him drive his golf cart on the fairways. He thinks a trade deficit means Europe “took” money from us, because he doesn’t know what trade deficits are or mean.

          The tide cannot truly turn until all of our aggrieved friends and allies — Canada, Britain, Germany, France — quit complaining about what an asshole he is, and simply stand up to him. Push back, tell him to go fuck himself.

          Because Generalissimo Babyfingers is a proud graduate of the Ike Turner School of Management, that’s really all he knows, this dynamic of smacking up a bitch, and then half-heartedly “apologizing”: Baby, why you make me hit you like that? Just imagine how emotionally stunted the people who have stayed in his employ must be, in order to do so. He is a toxic soul, and such things are contagious and pervasive. The tap water in the Org building probably tastes like tear-stained despair. And lead, sprinkled with asbestos particulates.”

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        • makagutu says:

          This is hilarious

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  9. basenjibrian says:

    The reply nesting is very strange on this platform, so I will reply here.

    Your “man is here to learn” argument fails on several grounds:

    1. As an all-knowing all-powerful entity, this God knew before time that most people would fail. Omniscience makes the concept of “free will” utter nonsense. How can there be free will in the face of perfect knowledge? The only logical approach is the horrors of Calvinist reform theology. Which means the :”choice” you speak of is nonsense from the perspective of the all-knowing deity. He created us to fall. He crated us as a subject for punishment. Why are we supposed to feel good about that? I find it repugnant.

    2. Many of the rules and regulations of The Law are trivial and downright silly, designed for a tribal society. Yet because flawed, contingent human beings cannot live up to the supposed glory of this God and his Law, we are somehow “as filthy rags”. My question again is to ultimate responsibility: Who made us this way? After already failing utterly once (the rebellion of Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels), it seems this deity is rather…incompetent…if not actively evil.

    3. The pathway to salvation is confusing and contradictory. Hand waiving nonsense about Christians all really believing the same thing is just that, nonsense, given the history of the church and its violent and never ending wars. If it is so important, then why is it so unclear.

    4. Eternal punishment. Think about that without slobbering over your anticipation of our future punishment because we deserve it. (Aquinas was a monster). Eternal punishment. Your religion posits a celestial North Korea that you cannot even escape by dying. What a horror your God has supposedly created. We are supposed to slavishly worship this being why, exactly?

    The core doctrines of the Christian faith are just so appalling to me I am not able to understand anymore how people can blithely promote the, Sorry.

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