Christianity and Islam

I know full well I am not the first to point this out, but is it not curious that the Koran, which is the word of god, is not alluded to by Christian apologists as evidence for Jesus birth as given in Sura 19:22-34? Or could it be because it denies the resurrection?

And while we are here, what will happen to the Koran as the true word of god, when we come to the conclusion that the Jesus story was a tall tale? We already have scholarly work that points to this direction and I know several of us who think that the Christ-Myth hypothesis is the more reasonable conclusion? And by Mo declaring himself the final prophet, who will abrogate these sections when the time comes that an amendment is required? (For those who are unaware, the Koran has a fail safe valve, where some verses, the revealed word of god, is abrogated by a later verse)

I am hoping Muslims and Christians who stray on this site will enlighten us on this matter. IS it one of those buried under the carpet? Or could we say Christians have chosen to look the other side because if they were to get down to it, both their religions will crumble? One can only guess.


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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

27 thoughts on “Christianity and Islam

  1. discussions between theist never get too far because they realize, even if only subconsciously, that the same arguments can apply to all of them. I keep waiting for Christians to explain how their arguments from popularity will work when Islam become a bigger religion.


  2. john zande says:

    It’s buggered already because it claims Moses and Abraham were real historical characters.


  3. basenjibrian says:

    Oh ye of little faithS. The “answers” are outlined quite clearly over the months and years here:


    • makagutu says:

      Where do I get more faith?


      • basenjibrian says:

        Just wander outside your door, Maka. The first church or mosque you encounter on your next bicycle ride is fated by Gawd to be the one true faith for you.

        Off Topic: I should send you the photographs I took of what happens when a carbon bicycle frame meets an unyielding surface. UGLY to say the least. I impacted on my lower front side…bruised rib(s) probably. Nothing to be done for this kind of injury, of course, but I ache!


  4. jim- says:

    I’m sure they are confident that eventually the archeology will pan out. If not, the less information the better. Faith thrives without fact…the less fact the better when it comes to that little foible of human psychology. How else can you explain it since every single point of doctrine or story or scripture is an improbable walking contradiction?

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    • basenjibrian says:

      Sadly for them, of course, archaeology seems to be going the other way.

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      • jim- says:

        It does…it has. Especially the pay dirt that was expected for a hundred years at Kadesh Barnea. A settlement the size of Houston Texas, and not even a pottery shard or a bone after 100 years of digging. No exodus, no Moses, nothing. Doesn’t work well when you use actual place names in a fable. Oops!


    • makagutu says:

      you faithless people are the ones who see contradictions. Don’t you know contradictions are only apparent? It is a different way of reading.


  5. renudepride says:

    I’m uncertain that either of the two systems can truly withstand close rational scrutiny. After all, we ALL know for a fact that all the universe was skillfully crafted by Winnie-the-Pooh! Naked hugs!


  6. shelldigger says:

    I actually had the pleasure of witnessing two righteous women having a very interesting cat fight once. They were quite deflty throwing bible quotes at each other in an effort to one up the other with the implied insults. it was a thing to behold.

    I suspect something similar would happen pitting x-iantiy and Islam against each other. Right up until the war started.


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