10 thoughts on “The gospel according to Luke

  1. Ron says:

    Cool! Glad to see NonStampCollector’s back making more videos. Thanks for the heads up, Mak.

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  2. nasimolo says:

    Funny clip. Sounds like Plato’s Republic, in which Socrates is talking to Adeimantus in Book III; (Was Luke a Platonist?)

    ” Such then, I said, are our principles of theology—some tales are to be told, and others are not to be told to our disciples from their youth upwards, if we mean them to honor the gods and their parents, and to value friendship with one another.

    Yes; and I think that our principles are right, he said.

    But if they are to be courageous, must they not learn other lessons besides these, and lessons of such a kind as will take away the fear of death? Can any man be courageous who has the fear of death in him?

    Certainly not, he said.

    And can he be fearless of death, or will he choose death in battle rather than defeat and slavery, who believes the world below to be real and terrible?

    Impossible.

    Then we must assume a control over the narrators of this class of tales as well as over the others, and beg them not simply to but rather to commend the world below, intimating to them that their descriptions are untrue, and will do harm to our future warriors.

    That will be our duty, he said. “

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  3. renudepride says:

    This is so very cool. Thank you, O Exalted Holiness, for posting it here. It makes me wonder exactly how much cannabis they actually inhaled back then! 😉 Naked hugs!

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  4. Barry says:

    Modern dramatisations of recent or historical events can also be just as made up. Not so long ago I watched a docudrama where a number of events were out of historical order, but fitted better with the intent of the story. I remember watching a movie as a teenager where the main characters visited New Zealand, and traveled in an American style railway carriage from Auckland to Wellington, via the Southern alps, Rotorua mud pools, and a waterfall that was far, far bigger than any in New Zealand. I remember at the time I was flabbergasted by such a “dishonest” depiction of rail travel between the two cities. But on the other hand the scenery was spectacular. It was all accompanied by a soundtrack that might be termed awe inspiring.

    We can’t now know the motives of the anonymous writer we call Luke, but I don’t think a scholarly historical record was the purpose. Stories such as the birth of Jesus are allegorical rather than factual. In fact it’s not unreasonable to consider Jesus’ life in its entirety as allegorical. Unfortunately, trying to convince Bible literalists of that is about as effective as flogging a dead horse.

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    • makagutu says:

      Barry, you are going to have to get a lawyer for your heresy trial. Calling the entire Jesus story as allegory! Have you not heard what Paul said about the death and resurrection and the futility of faith in the absence of such a story?

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      • Barry says:

        Paul was an anti-Christian zealot before his Road to Damascus experience and a pro-Christian zealot after. I take all he reputedly said and wrote with a grain of salt. He was a man of his era, but that’s two millennium ago.

        Besides, this is Aotearoa New Zealand and most Christians, while still believing in a deity, are at the liberal/progressive or post-Christian end of the Christianity spectrum, and if you’ve read my last but one post you’ll realise just how few Kiwis are religious in any form.

        Even way back in 1967 when Lloyd Geering was tried for doctrinal error, it wasn’t the clergy that laid the charge, it was a section of the Presbyterian laity from the city of Auckland. It has the highest proportion of immigrants of any city in NZ, and while it’s a progressive city in most ways, religiously it’s very conservative.

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        • makagutu says:

          Maybe some zealot from the American bible belt will have you kidnapped for trial.
          But you are right on Paul and I like the attitude of Kiwis towards religion. That’s how it should be everywhere

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