catholic church and abuse

I don’t know how people are still Catholics.

Here, the pope has acknowledged some bishops and priests had made nuns sexual slaves.

And somewhere in Texas, 286 priests have been named as having abused children.

Maybe it is time the Catholic church closed its doors.


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46 thoughts on “catholic church and abuse

  1. I really don’t know why catholics aren’t running out & away from it as fast as possible.

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  2. jim- says:

    Maybe? Only since the time of the Donatists. Augustine’s authorization of force to regroup the heretics was only the beginning of it horror, and he used scripture to justify it. To compel is a godly trait “23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.—Luke. Augustine, the heralded bishop if Hippo was a tyrant. All of the priests, every single one know of these abuses. Shut it down.

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  3. okuodo says:

    The title and the story don’t look same to me. Just as u have rightly said then the title to should specify that we not all involved in this. I am a proud Catholic, I don’t support this, but wishing for it to close it’s doors is unrealistic and not going to happen at least when both u n me are still alive.


  4. Tish Farrell says:

    And it’s not only the church (though it’s hard to beat them on the systematic scale and arrant hypocrisy front), but any organisation, political/professional/social position that facilitates predatory humans to use their accrued (protected) power to abuse those who are in some way dependent on them. And then too often, whent the abused do have the courage to speak out, they are publically pilloried.


    • makagutu says:

      It must take a lot of courage to come out and report some of these things.
      And you are right on social groups especially where a few have so much control, such things are bound to happen


    • basenjibrian says:

      Tish: Sadly, your criteria means that every single hierarchical organization fails this test. Not defending the Catholic Church in any way (their wealth, historic power, and ties to states makes them particularly egregious), but look at multiple American fundamentalist “cults”, Hollywood, large corporations, educational institutions, government agencies, heck, charities….etc etc. etc. etc.

      Sociopaths will always rise to the top, it seems.

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      • Tish Farrell says:

        Yes, that’s the sort of thing I was thinking. I’m also including goverments who lie to their citizens to get them to collude in wars and then use public money to arm themselves and attack innocent citizens of other nations. Not to be glib, but causing unwarranted suffering and death seems to me to be the ultimate form of abuse by heirarchical powers. We seem to have got used to it happening though.


  5. foolsmusings says:

    I agree. Them and all the others too. They’re a blight on humanity.


  6. judyt54 says:

    There has always been scandal, and a byzantine attitude in Rome with cels and secret behaviors, but I think most of us, for some reason, assumed it had little or nothing to do with us or the religion we followed.

    This all came unglued not long after I had more or less informally left the church (for my own reasons), and it was like that little hole in the dike, that just kept getting bigger. We were taught to never question our faith, but when you learn that the latest parish priest in your town is now a self-confessed molester, covered by the BISHOP? well, the hole gets a lot bigger a lot faster.

    And there are a lot of Catholics out there who are still processing what this means, and like all good Catholics, are still ignoring the crumbling roof tiles and the missing hinges on the doors…


  7. IMO, Catholics have wrapped up so much of their self-worth in their religion, pretending that they and only they have the “right” answer and that their god agrees with them and only them, that they cannot admit that they are entirely wrong. They sacrifice their humanity on the altar of their greed and selfishness.


    • basenjibrian says:

      You should meet the typical American Fundi, cs. This clan of bozos has, for instance, persuaded themselves that a serial molester and overall creep (the mango maniac) is the Servant of the Lawd.


      • oh, I live in the US so I meet them all of the time. 🙂 I have them as relatives. Christians seem to be one and all exactly as I described Catholics. No matter if some are a little more humane than the rest, they all tell lies to themselves and others to keep their religion.

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  8. renudepride says:

    I’m certain all those abused children wish the church had locked the doors and discarded the keys generations ago! This scandal just continues to grow out of control – with no one acknowledging their culpability! Naked hugs!


  9. The Catholic Church needs to be terminated. It’s assets need to be liquidated and distributed to the victims of its hideous crimes, and each and every priest needs to be criminally charged with working for a known pedophile and sex slave ring. The Catholic Church is a disgrace. The sex slavery and condoned pedophile activity it has perpetrated over the centuries is sickening. It is not defensible, and the Church needs to be completely dissolved. ENOUGH!!!

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  10. What’s SoM saying about this? I hazard to guess…


  11. Ron says:

    . . . and bad mistakes; they’ve made a few.

    Makes you wonder if they really believe in an omnipresent god. They fear being discovered by other humans, yet seem totally oblivious to being watched by an all-seeing god.


  12. thewisegreek says:

    I agree, I think getting kids to believe in god gets them to focus too much on beliefs and not enough about what we’ve really found reality to be. This is important because people will believe whatever someone ‘holy,’ says and I think that puts them in a position to be manipulated with ease.


  13. CatholicEconomist says:

    The solution to the abuse crisis is compassion. We need compassion for the victims, but also for the Church. Compassion draws unity, hatred division.


  14. CatholicEconomist says:

    A pope wrote that the Church is lying in the gutter wounded and covered in sores. “Do not pass it by.”


  15. CatholicEconomist says:

    The problem is also worse in other Christian Churches.. It is present in all institutions.. We can’t close down the whole of society? The Catholic Church has just received disproportionate coverage which makes it look like it is the locus of these kind of things


    • makagutu says:

      I wasn’t specific to the catholic church. I meant all churches. Then in their places we can have bars, libraries, more libraries and schools and playgrounds. Useful things. Maybe priests and nuns would be better employed and not be leeches.


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