I think there has been progress

In how society views women but maybe not. I am reading this book and I came across this statement

The economic value of a girl to society is gauged by the extent to which a man maybe excused his debts on the ground that after his daughter’s marriage he will be able to pay them.

Whenever I have argued, like Solon before me and others, that bride price is an exchange between males, I have gotten push back that it is tradition or that the groom is showing his appreciation to the parents of the girl for bringing her up. I think in actual fact, it creates a power imbalance.

About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

19 thoughts on “I think there has been progress

  1. jim- says:

    Bride price? Is there a groom price too?


  2. Eric Alagan says:

    Society has gone about this all wrong. They look at the girl and set the bride price. In other cultures, they look at the boy and set the price the girl’s side must pay his parents.

    For guys looking to get married, I say – look at her mother. That’s what the bride will look like 30 years down the road. If you can live with that – go for it. Don’t wait. Marry the girl’s aunt ๐Ÿ™‚

    For girls looking to get married, I say – look at his father. That’s what the slob will look like 30 years down the road. If you still want to marry your man – have your head examined ๐Ÿ™‚

    BTW Mak – this was not me. It was the Brothers Grinn – remember them?


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    • makagutu says:

      I remember them very well. Last I checked you and them were very close friends ๐Ÿ˜€

      In stories from Russia one reads of the girls family paying dowry and I think it (is)was the same in India. But I think the principal is the same

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  3. renudepride says:

    The “price” of a bride is positive proof of the serious imbalance between the genders. Why should the family of the bride be compensated solely. How about the family of the groom for allowing their son to wed and provide for the bride? Naked hugs! ๐Ÿ™‚


  4. Swarn Gill says:

    I think anytime a human life comes down to money value, we probably aren’t focusing on the right thing. In this situation, where the price tag is always attached to a woman, we certainly aren’t valuing women when we say they can be bought, regardless of how high the price tag.

    If women have a price, and men simply do not, this an inequity in society that should be gotten rid of.

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  5. Yes, there has been progress, however it is so slow at times it may as well be walking backwards.

    – Esme waving at Mak upon the Cloud

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  6. foolsmusings says:

    It astounds me that anyone still uses tradition as an argument. This has been used so often to justify anything from minor injustices to genocide. If tradition is harming someone, itโ€™s wrong, end of story.


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