to bring this important pastoral message from a pastor Curt Landry on the ongoing stalemate following the yet to be concluded US election. The good parson had this to say
Son of man, do you think that I am going to allow my prophets who prophesied Trump’s second term and prophesied all this goodness coming to this nation to be mocked by a mass media manipulation?” Landry asked rhetorically, speaking on behalf of God. “The Lord says, ‘No, I shall not. For my namesake, I shall protect my word, I shall protect my people, I shall protect my prophets from this evil destruction. For I shall pull back the veil and I shall reveal that which is done in darkness. For they who shift the votes and move the boxes around, those who raised the dead and the dead vote, I will expose them says the Lord. For they may be tricky men, but they shall not trick me,’ says the Lord.”
Friendly Atheist
I think it is time you Biden supporters started praying since it seems prayers reaching the heavens have only been from the Trump side.
Random thoughts 
Never ending nightmare.
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It will hopefully end in January
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Yes, but with the way he is, I won’t hold my breath.
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It is time other countries sent election observers to the US
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Certainly a huge mess.
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Trump and Barr are lighting embers everywhere.
It is going to be an interesting 2 months
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With people stock piling guns & ammunition, there’s worry about major attacks happening. Apparently sales have been in record numbers.
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I don’t know what civilians with guns can achieve when they are not organised. Who/ what will they be shooting at? Government buildings? People they don’t like or disagree with? Police?
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Probably all of the above. They are gun crazy there.
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I hope that madness has not spread to your part of the world
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Some of it has…..more shootings, more ”I want my rights” attitude, more arrogance. Most of our tv is from the US, so we have this in our faces all the time.
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Sometimes I ask myself how confrontation with the police here would be if majority of people owned guns. Especially during highly charged and contested elections
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Police are just as gun happy, & that makes it all so frightening.
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Very gun happy and in such scenarios they take orders from whoever wields more power.
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All very frightening, & I hate that guns are being smuggled across the border & gangs, many from the US, etc., are spreading them around.
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Thats the problem we have here. I think the illegal guns could just outnumber those held by cops
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Some of the seizures they’ve made are incredible, & makes one wonder how many are NOT found.
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What i do not get is having a cache of firearms and munitions to supply a police station.
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Guns, drugs, & cash seizures, & usually US origin, & smuggled in.
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I think here they come from Somalia and other neighbours. And or guns stolen from police armoury i guess
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I read that ballot audits have been done in Orange County California for decades and no hint of any naughty goings-on have ever been uncovered or reported.
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In the last news item I saw, Barr wants investigation into fraudulent votes without providing any evidence of the same.
On this point, we have usually done better. There are usually legitimate claims of vote fraud though capacity & will to come to the bottom of it lacks.
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There’s lots of evidence of voter fraud. You just have to look for it.
Here’s but one example:
https://www.inquirer.com/news/voter-fraud-philadelphia-ward-leader-judge-of-elections-domenick-demuro-guilty-plea-20200521.html
Here’s another:
https://lidblog.com/mail-in-ballot-voter-fraud
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Can’t access the second example.
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Here’s a direct link to Attorney General’s Office of New Jersey
https://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases20/pr20200625a.html
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Ron really! This is for a May special election
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Yes, but it confirms that voter fraud exists.
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that’s never in doubt. the question, i think, is the scale of the fraud. Is it significant to invalidate an election or can we live with it?
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Well, that’s the purpose of the investigation: to determine just how bad it is. Plus in some places, the margin is so razor thin that every fraudulent vote found could alter the outcome.
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I forgot to ask. How much fraud have you found for the current US Presidential election?
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Lots. Seek and ye shall find.
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Every news Item I have read so far has returned Nada, zero ziltch and every fraud claim or other shenanigans Trump’s lawyers have presented has been dismissed for lack of evidence.
I don’t mind doing ”leg work”, really I don’t, but just how many geese are you going to have me chase, Ron?
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If you’re chasing geese it might be because you’re searching in the wrong location. 😉
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The NYT released something (this morning/yesterday?) stating that all 50 states had been contacted and election officials have confirmed there was zero incidence/evidence of voter fraud.
I am not American, as you probably know, so what should I make of this?
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The Vatican released a report stating that all of its dioceses had been contacted and church officials confirmed that there was zero evidence of sexual abuse.
I’m not Catholic, as you probably know, so what should I make of this?
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If every voting official contacted was a Democrat I might be a tad suspicious. But only a tad, mind. Those involved in politics being renowned for scrupulous honesty and all that.
However, I can only presume the Times was in touch with officials of a Republican Flavour also.
Come to think about it, if they are dumb as their Leader perhaps they would not recognise Voter Fraud if a ballot box from the most conservative Ye Haw district in the US fell on their head, burst open and spilled a thousand ballots with Biden’s name scribbled out and the name Dunold Tmrup written underneath in blue biro.
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You’re missing political forest for the trees. Team red and team blue play for the same league and are cheered on by the same sportscasters. It’s like professional wrestling, where the players badmouth and threaten each other in front of the audience and then go out for drinks after the show. The animosity directed towards Mr. Trump is because he refuses to play by the establishment rules. To them, he’s like a bull in a china shop destroying everything they hold precious — i.e. their love of the status quo which lends them power and influence over others.
That’s why I’m apolitical.
Ain’t singing for Biden
Ain’t singing for Trump
I don’t sing for nobody
Makes me look like a chump
This non-vote’s for you.
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Well, I’m not American and if you aren’t going to point me to a link that confirms all this electoral fraud then I’m at a loss.
Conversations like this begin to sound similar to when Christians announce there is tons of evidence for Jesus and when I question they suggest I read Wallace and Strobel!
SMH.
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As it is in so many life circumstances … it is what it is because I say so.
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Nan how are things in the Nan household now that the election still seems to hang in the air
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Heh-heh. Quiet.
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Did you see this?
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I have now! And it’s scares the bejeezus out of me. From the brief clip Fareed showed of Trump where he talks about “going back to Congress,” it sure sounds like he knows what he’s talking about … and if so, he could very well turn this election upside down.
I may have to post this video for my readers!
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It does seem the Trump campaign and the GOP know what they are doing.
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Those might be the best they got
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I’ve already provided several links showing the prevalence of electoral fraud and current complaints filed with the State of Michigan (see comment to Mak).
But the real fraud is stepping into a voting booth thinking you possess the moral right to grant your chosen candidate the power to dictate your will over others.
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Corret me if I’m wrong but the links you offered were not for the current national presidential election?
But then I could have misread / misunderstood. Not beyond the bounds of reality for moi!
Your closing paragraph … ah, Mister Ron, I’m never one to duke it out with philosophical inspired stuff. Not my bag, I’m afraid.
So,if it’s a toss up between a localised incident on a couple of links – as on the level as these are, I’m sure, against the replies from officials from the 50 states or whatever it is, I reckon I’ll throw my hat in with the latter … and damn the torpedoes!
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Not sure what you mean, because the linked Michigan affidavits were just file in the past week. If you’re looking for a link to a judicial decision regarding those complaints, you’ll have to wait.
As to expressing your willingness to accept the word of “officials” and the MSM at face value without further investigation, you do so at you’re own peril.
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*Shrug*
Not my fight ….
There’s enough nonsense in SA to last several lifetimes.
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Perhaps. But remember that it was the U.S. Congress that passed the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986, which got the ball rolling. 🙂
As former Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau noted:
“Living next to you [USA] is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.”
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Yes, the AAA cetainly contributed to speeding things up, and it makes an interesting change that Government Corruption comes in a few different shades these days!
As for the elephant …
Let’s not forget the amount and sheer size of the shit the elephant makes and also, that it is so often intent on spreading it around!
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“Government Corruption comes in a few different shades these days!”
Haha!
Meet the new boss . . .
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Oh, yes. That’s a No Maybe. The present crowd had some very good examples to follow.
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We say here that if the USA coughs, everyone catches it
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I know what you mean, eh.
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Indeed!
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How much of an anti-establishment figure is Trump anyway?
This election looks to me like some I have seen this side of the ocean. I hope it is resolved soon to the satisfaction of all antagonists
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Unfortunately, there’ll be no resolution because at least 50% of the voters will be unhappy no matter which way the outcome goes.
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and this was the same situation 4 years ago. I saw many not my president posts online and marches to the same effect
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Case in point on my wrestling analogy
It’s all a dog and pony show, and in this instance they’re not even waiting to let down their pretences until after the cameras are turned off.
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Haha.
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Haha, I don’t see you getting anywhere with Ron
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You are not looking in the right places, Ark. Try Faux news for a start
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I hear votes were seen flying on the potomac. I don’t know how true this is😀
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Is it sufficient to invalidate the whole presidential election? Does it affect other levels too?
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People have file file affidavits claiming they witnessed fraud and voting irregularities at the polling stations.
Here are two from Michigan:
Click to access Complaint-Costantino-FINAL-With-Exhibits.pdf
Click to access ZachLarsenAfifdavit.pdf
But there are several more.
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A little research on this issue indicates most “concerns” are being pointed out by conservative sources. IOW, the same-o, same-o conspiracy crap.
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Doesn’t really matter who brought the complaints if they are true. And if there was no impropriety, the complaints will be dismissed. But if there was, it benefits all to investigate them and rectify the situation.
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Of course. But doesn’t it seem rather “interesting” that all this has become a REALLY BIG issue in THIS election? Doesn’t mean it might have happened before, but due to certain individuals who have problems with losing, it’s suddenly become front and center. And overall, creating even more division among people.
IF there are voting improprieties, why haven’t they been addressed in other elections to the same degree?
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It’s always been an issue.
Click to access pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf
But most people don’t care until the vote goes opposite to their liking. (See Hillary’s Russia, Russia, Russia hysteria post 2016)
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For some reason, the other link I posted isn’t displaying properly, so here is another:
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
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And from its “About” page … As the nation’s largest, most broadly-supported conservative research and educational institution, The Heritage Foundation has been the bastion of the American conservative movement.
Their purpose may be worthy, but their objective is suspect.
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The facts are the facts, Nan — no matter who delivers them.
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This i agree. and if they are frivolous, the complainants should pay the courts for wasting its time
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Sure. And the DNC should also have to repay the U.S. treasury the $32 million wasted on the frivolous Mueller investigation, 🙂
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By all means.
Though last I checked Mueller was republican and a few people were indicted though trump pardoned them.
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There’s a few pro Trumpers in these oarts, but as best I can ascertain, they are conspirasists and/or racists through and tbrough. Some might be christian, but if they are, they’re keeping quiet about it.
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I am sure to find Trump supporters this side too. Some of his policies were lauded, for example his not raining drones all over the place or trying to reduce the troops deployed elsewhere around the world. He should have closed Guantamo Bay.
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I seem to recall Obama pledging to close Guantanamo Bay prior to his election in 2008. Never happened.
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I think the Americans love to have such places to hold people indefinitely incommunicado
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The executive order was issued, but the task force review determined that 48 detainees posed significant security threats and could not be safely released.
Executive Order 13492 of January 22, 2009
Guantanamo Review Final Report (See “Yemini Detainess”, p. 18, DOC p. 22 of 32)
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Have they been tried in a competent court with jurisdiction on such matters?
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No. According to the report, they are in legal limbo, because they’re deemed a security risk but there’s not enough evidence to try them.
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Let’s hope some day they will leave either to a court or to a grave some place.
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According to this video, the detainees get treated quite well unless they make a nuisance of themselves.
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There is only one instance I know of where a man preferred incarceration to freedom and it was in a novel. I have also heard it said give me freedom or give me death. You and I would bet top dollar( if I had) that they would prefer freedom to being treated well in a jail without the possibility of trial.
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Nothing disgusts me more than some asshat speaking for their imaginary friend.
Amazingly coincidental with their personal outlook.
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Well, our orange idiot disgusts me to no end too. And our R Senate.
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Your orange one is not going down easy
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Shelldigger friend, start praying. That will make all the difference
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A good political poem of a kind, a rarity!
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