how to know you’re an orthodox believer

when you issue death threats to moderates. Some Muslims seem to me to be stuck in a time warp where the sun does not shine and reason does not reign. When will some of these people learn tolerance? Is religious tolerance possible in Islam?

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

42 thoughts on “how to know you’re an orthodox believer

  1. Ark says:

    Maybe religious in-tolerance will eventually become so widespread that people will realise there is, in fact, no place for any religion in society?
    Aaah, what a thought!

    As Bing Crosby once sang:
    ”I’m dreaming of a white Christmas.”

    As you and I live in Africa you will appreciate why I chose that particular song!

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  2. ladysighs says:

    I’m still on the ‘Orthodox Believer’ part. If may take a life time to figure out what that means. I’m not going to spend what time I have left trying to figure out if and when Islamists will be tolerant.
    Next question please.

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  3. As a devout Muslim myself, I will tell you, I’m extremely tolerant of EVERYONE as long as they, too, are devout Muslims and worship Allah EXACTLY the same way I do. $Allahu Akbar$

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  4. shelldigger says:

    You can’t learn tolerance when all you know, all you have been programmed to be, is intolerance of everything not exactly like you.

    Intolerance is bad enough, but when it is used by religion it soon becomes church sanctioned murder and/or vengeance.

    Such nice people, the religious. If they could only see the main thing that keeps them getting along with each other IS their religion, we might get somewhere.

    …and so pathetic their gods, needing the people who worship, to do the dirty work.

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  5. Ron says:

    C’mon man! Educate yourself! Islam is the religion of peace, and diversity is our strength. And death to anyone who says different.

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  6. maryplumbago says:

    Islam is a mirror to where we are headed, if education and parenting donโ€™t change

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  7. Barry says:

    Is religious tolerance possible in Islam” I believe not only is it possible, it exists. Clearly not everywhere, but tolerance and respect of other beliefs has to start somewhere. One only needs to review comments by Islamic leaders in the wake of the Christchurch mosque massacre and the victim impact statements given at the trial of the shooter to realise that Islam, like all ideologies is mostly tolerant with a distinct minority that are less so.

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    • makagutu says:

      The punishment for apostasy is still death in many places. And yes, tolerance exists where Islam is not in power. Look at most majority muslim countries and you will see there is a problem especially when orthodox Muslims come to power.

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    • basenjibrian says:

      Historically, Islam, or at least cosmopolitan, advanced Islam, WAS more tolerant of religious minorities than organized Christianity at the same time. I am thinking in particular of Spain. Sadly, there were always radicals waiting (in the desert, typically) to overthrow and restore intolerance when the Islamic states got too “soft”. I love the Dune novels and movies…amazing how based on Islamic history Frank Herbert’s world building was!

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      • makagutu says:

        I think most religions are tolerant where they don’t have power or where the state is led by reasonable heads but extremists seem to eventually get their way. Look at Indonesia or the brotherhood in Egypt or India or Myanmar. Crazy things going on that can be part explained by religious intolerance and political motives

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  8. It took the Catholicism more the fife hundred years to reform themselves and that process is still ongoing. We must be patient! It will take a few generations at least. Fortunately, cyber technologies will speed up the process considerably. However, as the saying goes Rome was not built in one day!

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