because if I did and wrote something like this, I should be accused of blasphemy. The juicy part that caught my eye is
People in Hell exist. I think this is the most tragic, but also the most tragically beautiful part. Going back to Point 3: all things that exist only exist because God loves them into existence and holds them in existence through His love. Thus, the fact that people in Hell don’t just “disappear into oblivion” is because God is constantly saying to each one of those souls, “I love you, exist in my love. I love you, exist in my love.” Every single soul in Hell is as loved by God as souls in Heaven, Earth, and Purgatory. But, as Point 4 notes: Hell is a prison that is locked from the inside.
God loves you enough to keep you in hell but not to forgive you and send you to stay in heaven with him. I don’t know what understanding of love this is, but it is the kind I am sure I don’t want. I think this is hat happens when one is committed to a position that is indefensible. You try gymnastics to make it sound reasonable but it doesn’t work.
God loves, even in hell, it just will not get you out.
Random thoughts 
Freddie Mercury quote…
“Oh, I was not made for heaven. No, I don’t want to go to heaven. Hell is much better. Think of all the interesting people you’re going to meet down there”
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All the interesting people are in hell ,& that’s where the party is
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“I love you, exist in my love. I love you, exist in my love.”
I imagine Kim Jong-un comforts his subjects with similar expressions of fondness.
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Just at the moment he is about to have one sent to their maker
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This is what the reprobate says. But the fact is that Kim Jong-un loves his people so much that he granted them the opportunity to exercise their “free will” to love him back in return. It’s not his fault they’ve chosen to isolate themselves from his everlasting love and bounty due to their pride and selfishness.
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Is this what they call tough love?
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You bet! And our loving father reminds us of this when he says, “This is going to hurt me way more than it hurts you.”
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It is author Neil Gaiman’s OPPOSITE contention that it is the love of their worshippers that keeps the gods alive. See: Donald Trump and his worshipping deplorables.
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Neil is right. Without the worshipers, gods would all be dead.
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This mindset is how Christian theology learns to accept their insignificant status in the universe. God has his only son—we are only tolerated by his good graces. We’re orphans without even a mother here on probation—owing every breath of our existence o a master who has us here through sufferance. And we never know where we stand. I love you, but… Your lucky I don’t just wipe you all out and you’d better be grateful. What a lousy way to be brought up.
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I think abrahamic faiths should abandon hell. It doesn’t help their case at all.
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I disagree. It is a perfect recruiting/control tool. Obey us (the religious leaders) or you will suffer for eternity. We are the only true religion. Believe like we demand and you will live forever. Disbelieve, and suffer. Cheat us, and the Lord will strike you down!
Very useful theology for a growing cult.
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I thought humanity has come of age and would reject such nonsense, but I have been wrong, it seems
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Yeah. Brilliant stuff. Can’t possibly see why anyone would have problems with logical, pure reasoning like this. Ah, don’cha just love dem der Christians?!
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Why would anyone not love such a god? Loves you deeply to punish you eternally for a finite offence
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Perhaps the supposed deity should hire you as a “consultant” to correct his numerous divine mistakes! 😉 I’m certain said deity can create enough gold to make it worth your energy and time! Naked hugs!
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I think the deity is doing poorly at the marketing department. This is gross incompetence
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Amen to that, my Kenyan brother!
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But yet…it is only the more…fervent…sects within the cults that seem to be growing…or maintaining their numbers and influence. Sad to see.
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It is sad. How people continue to believe in the most of absurd things is beyond sad
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I know. When I see all the sheeple wearing masks outdoors to protect themselves against a potential illness with a 99.96% recovery rate attests to just how absurd some of those beliefs can truly be. Thankfully, more and more states are finally waking up to say “enough of this silliness” and plotting a course back to normal.
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Of course! “Normal” is what we ALL want! Let me repeat that … NORMAL is what we all want!
But 518,456 Deaths in the U.S. (3/3/21) alone from COVID-19 is not normal! And if it takes some inconvenience on the part of everybody to keep that number from going any higher, so be it.
I dunno’, Ron. I know you’ve been fighting this from the beginning and I just don’t understand why you’re so dead set against ALL of us taking precautions to not only protect ourselves, but to keep it from spreading to others … friends and families as well as strangers.
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I do agree that wearing a mask inside one’s own car is a little…silly…if harmless. (Certainly less harmful than Church bigots holding services or nasty Karens demanding to be served without a mask). I am also skeptical about wearing a mask outside when not in close proximity to other people. But I am not making that skepticism the basis of my politics a la California’s Governing Newsome recall.
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I’ve already provided the links showing that the people most affected are:
– over 80
– suffer from two or more chronic health problems
– and reside in care homes, where you would expect health precautions to be the greatest.
In one of those links the CDC reported that less than 6% of the “COVID” deaths had no pre-existing conditions.
And the highest risk factor overall is obesity:
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/06/01/david-kass-obesity-covid-19
https://www.worldobesityday.org/assets/downloads/COVID-19-and-Obesity-The-2021-Atlas.pdf (long load time)
. . . which is the reason why I’ve been enthusiastically advocating for the adoption of a healthy diet, exercise, rest, hydration and fresh air for the past ten months.
The masks offer little to no protection (the side of the box they come in clearly states that they are not intended for medical use and offer no protection against COVID-19), and most likely increase your health risks because they not only impede your ability to breathe normally but also create a moist environment that becomes an ideal breeding ground for bacteria to multiply and be breathed back in.
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Yes, the death rates lean towards the elderly … so does this mean only the elderly should wear masks?
I agree — CHEAP masks (which many/most people buy and wear) provide minimal protection. Nonetheless, I still contend they play a role in limiting the spread of the virus. Medical authorities continue to repeat it is the (infected) particles emanating from speech and breath and sneezes that pass on the virus. So restricting this (even with cheap masks) seems to be a good thing, IMO.
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Based on the data, it’s apparent that being elderly is less of a factor than being elderly and suffering from serious health conditions, the most common of which are heart and lung disease. Obviously no change in lifestyle will correct course for those now suffering from end of life illnesses, so they will have to continue taking precautions. But the focus of attention for the rest of the population should center upon improving one’s health rather than attempting to dodge illness; and all the measures suggested to date have only served to exacerbate the situation, because alcoholism, substance abuse, suicides and domestic violence have all skyrocketed over the past year.
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The two groups of people who leave me shaking my head are cyclists riding towards oncoming traffic, no blinkers no helmet but by George, they wear masks and the people I meet early in my morning runs donning masks while running.
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Then there are the cyclists who disregard traffic lights and stop signs while riding against traffic on the sidewalk.
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And cuss you when you point this out
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I used to sneer at cyclists on sidewalks as well. (And the failure to yield right of way when riding on a sidewalk the wrong way is one of my major pet peeves as well). But the reality in these Benighted States is most suburban sidewalks are pretty unpeopled. I can understand a nervous non-expert rider choosing to avoid the fleets of 6,000 pound lifted trucks (I NEED a massive Suburban Assault Vehicle for my trip to Walmart) on the typical American four or six lane vehicle sewers that pass for “streets” here. Pedestrians have the complete right of way, of course, but I am less sarcastic than I used to be about sidewalk riding.
Of course, the other reality is many of the day to day cyclists I see in my suburb are the “lost souls”. And one cannot ignore the reality that some of our homeless are riding their bikes while impaired. I saw one riding the wrong way AT NIGHT down the shoulder of a FREEWAY heading for the nearest tent camp. Dangers abound. 😦
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I think some believers have too much time on their hands!
But I also think that when your interests and thoughts and “life” revolve around your religion, things begin to get a bit mucky in your cerebrum.
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I think this guy stays alone. He should read that passage to a friend aloud. Maybe they will see it really doesn’t make sense
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Ain’t that person a little ray of sunshine.
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What would the world be without such apologists
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I admire the mental acrobatics, this piece of junk needs to be published in the joker section of an amusement park. I am bewildered by how far those believers are willing to go to cover up their insecurities.
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I think it was William Foote or Paine who said an atheist cannot be guilty of blasphemy. This is blasphemy. If this is was my marketer I would fire them
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This is why I don’t get out much. These people are out there!
My opinion, people who think like this border on mentally ill. If you can go to this length to rationalize your religion, you can rationalize anything. Anything, no matter how terrible, is just fine with these folks. The god in their head tells them so.
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They vote. They have families. They are teachers. You should get out more my friend, the air is good outdoors.
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Many of the enthusiastic Nazi Party members were good Lutherans. (Not the leadership, necessarily. They were largely into just plain weird shit). Perfect illustration of rationalizing appalling things.
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I’m a Christian, and even I disagree with what this writer said. The bible clearly states that God hates. He’s holy, and that’s why hell exists.
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How is this an improvement on what the other said? How does his being holy relate to hell existing?
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It’s… not an improvement. It probably makes it worse in your opinion. When I say God is Holy I’m kind of saying the ocean is a little wet, maybe. He’s Holy as in he can’t stand anything that’s not. He hates it. And that’s what we are, technically. So that’s why hell exists, to separate everything that’s not holy from God. Hell exists because God is Holy, and there are beings that aren’t.
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And god is unable to make these beings unholy without hell?
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He is able to. That’s what sanctification does. For humans, at least.
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So why does hell exist?
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Because a lot of people don’t want to be sanctified. They reject Christ. Also, Satan and the other fallen angels have to go somewhere—since they rebelled and fell into sin.
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So there are beings your god is unable to sanctify?
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It’s not that He’s not able to. It’s that He refuses to.
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Now, I don’t know what’s worse: Believing people are in hell because god loves them or because he refuses to do anything about it.
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Oh there are worse things than that, in my opinion. But I think you have a wrong interpretation of what hell is. It’s not supposed to be a place of punishment, but of separation.
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Separation from what? What is your understanding of punishment?
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How does one become separated from an omnipresent being?
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Omnipresence removes itself from some places, I guess eh
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You just keep digging yourself deeper. Your definition of “Holy” is so insane, so immoral. Why do you worship such an evil being other than craven fear?
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Wow. You have the “Christianese” down pat.
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She has it to a tee and her comment was to be an improvement on the linked post! Boggles the mind
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Haha it’s not supposed to be an improvement. People really have to understand that God also has wrath and is not just all love love love. I was just saying that the theology of the guy who wrote the post is kinda not right. And to answer your question, hell is separation from God. That’s why it’s supposedly so awful there, because God is everything that is Good, and in hell, His Goodness is decidedly absent. The only thing in hell is his wrath. Anyway, I’m sure what I’m saying is garbage to you, but I just couldn’t resist commenting on what I read— because I think what this guy was trying to say comes from Thomas Aquinas’ theology—that God loves existence into being, but it’s wrong to say that God loves the people in hell. I would say He doesn’t, personally. But others would disagree with me.
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You seem to know a lot about god, its motives and all. How do you know all these? And how did you conclude a god & your specific god exists?
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Ah. I know little. I’m far from an expert. I know all of these because of the Bible and because of other people—theologians, pastors, even scientists—share their knowledge in church or online. I concluded that God exists because I had a personal encounter with Him, and because the universe, in its complexity, had to have had a Creator.
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Hahaha. You jest.
Good for you.
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Random thoughts are a world in reverse; go to the cause, not the effects. Face Jesus Christ and see how you measure up.
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Where is your Jesus to be faced?
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I saw his face in a taco once. Does that count?
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That counts.
Sandwich too, counts
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I face him at the cross- the cross is from eternity. I can’t measure up but by his life in me. He gave his life for ne to give his life to me.
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Oh wow! You saw him at the cross?!!? Really saw him? Where is this cross located so we can all go see him? I mean, so many doubt his existence, this would surely put all doubts to rest.
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I see the cross an event whereby God brought a race of rebels back to himself. Via Christ he made a way to put his spirit in flesh and blood. Not everyone sees it that way.
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Hahahahaha. You really funny Arnold. A bunch of rebels you say?
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funny indeed. I think the only valid, worthwhile rebels are those who look at this rather nasty cult leader, this “Christ” and this so called “Holy” by some weird divine command theory definition “God” and say…Wicked. You are all wicked. Rebellion is the only valid moral response. My flawed, imperfect, contingent, and very human self RECOILS at your deities.
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Nan, this is really good.
This is like in the dream i saw i owned a ferrari and the walking around the place bragging about my ferrari and insisting everyone believe i own one
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Even granting you that there is a cross, it is not from eternity. You need not spread misinformation of this kind. Doesn’t look good on you.
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It is amusing how these religiots worship a particularly nasty torture device. Especially given how enthusiastically they have tortured “infidels” over the millennia.
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It is a sign of redemption, don’t ya know
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I just love when people tell me that god is unknowable, then tell me ALL about god.
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Maybe they should adopt the position of Aviciena and argue that god can only be talked about “via negativa”
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Hi, new to blogging, and I’m reading the posts, but I like to give a thought… The Bible says That God created the world ( Genesis 1:1 ) you may say big deal what’s your point, you have more faith than I do, you believe random, pre-existing elements to guide you, so my thought is how do you know you have done of enough “good Karma ” to appease the gods ? In the book of Acts in the Bible, Paul appears to men like you, you have the same thought about so-called gods or even if there are gods, these men were Epicurean and Stoic philosophers….so these men took them to Athens, Greece to the Areopagus… In Acts 17:22-33, the main point of his message and quite frankly The LORD God, is now stopping men to think they can get away with what they do, and have this one thought, He’s going to judge the world by the one whom He raised from the dead ( verse 30-31 ) to repent is turning from your sins, and placing your faith in Jesus Christ in faith( see Hebrews 11:1&6 ) and (John 3:16), if any questions, love to chat with you, lastly I do offer this with a sincere heart, Dave
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Quran (9:30): “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
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This, my friend is the best answer
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Exodus 20:1-3 “ And God spoke all these words saying I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me.” Every religion is based on what you can do to be received by a deity, Christianity is based on what the Lord God has done
Even here it’s God who does the rescuing, and Jesus ( who is God ) rescues us from our sins by going to the cross for our sins and proving that Jesus is God, He was raised from the dead, praying for you friend, Dave
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Quran (2:65-66): “Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.”
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Check this out the Lord God is a merciful and kind God, God sent Jesus to the earth to proclaim the truth, what is that truth? That men and women can know God personally but placing their faith in Jesus, what an loving, kind, merciful God He is !!
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Yeah, very merciful, in fact so merciful that if you don’t believe this nonsense you will go to hell. Now, this is the kind of mercy I like.
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Oh, wow, yes merciful…God is giving the air to breathe ?? I mean God is Holy, He didn’t have to save a single sinner like me and you, yet He did…amazing grace…, For by grace are you saved through faith….Ephesians 2:8
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You really are deep in this bullocks. No man need saving
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Ok..1 John 1:8 if we say we don’t sin we call God a liar !!
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Funking liar, I tell you
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so why are you angry ?
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Me angry? How would you even know if I were?
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Hi friend, your Quran verses is all anger and judgement, does your god love you ? The Lord God knows my frame and my heart and loves me all the same, however that’s not enough, salvation through Jesus by faith is how I’m justified ( I can’t ever earn salvation it’s a gift received by faith ) lastly, if I misspoke you being angry I apologize, hope to continue our chat,
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I am yet to start posting my Koran verses. But that can’t be a measure of whether I am angry.
You are lucky the Lord knows your heart. Mine, my heart is bloody wet
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Hi friend, how is your morning ? It’s is by Gods grace and mercy that I’m known by God, you too can know the Lord God by placing your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, He went to the cross for your sins, but more than that rose from the dead, death doesn’t have power over Him ! Hope your doing well
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I did not ask Jesus to commit deicide.
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Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
— Quran 112 (Al-Ikhlas), ayat 1-4
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I don’t think my friend is in need of prayers. You on the other hand need a lot of help. To start thinking, for one.
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I believe you and your friend believe that Allah is God, so let’s make this a conversation instead of an attack, but I will leave you with this one thought, How do you know you have done enough good to merit heaven ? The Bible says that The Lord God gave Jesus for our sins, if I come in faith and receive that gift of God by placing my faith in Jesus, I’m saved, not by what I do, (which will never be enough) but by grace and love of God..praying for you and your friend
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I don’t give a damn about heaven. It doesn’t exist. And there is nothing you can do to merit a non existent place.
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then what’s your purpose being alive ? your too engaged to believe Heaven doesn’t exist ?
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So your purpose is to go to heaven? You need a life
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No, my purpose to Glorify my God and King, to proclaim hoe great He is…not only did He create the whole world and everything in it, He made a way to spend etenrity with Him
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Yeah, great hoe, I agree
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O People of the Scripture. do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
— Quran 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 171[3]
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Like to continue this but I need to take care of a couple things, I’m impressed you know Your religion well…chat soon ? D
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“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” — Yoda
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Lol, Star Wars! Truthfully there is a dark side, until we come to the Light, we’ll be deceived, “ John 14:6..,Jesus speaking, I am the way, the truth, the life, no one can come to the Father except by me” simply till we receive Jesus as our Lord and Savior by faith, we are in darkness, chat soon
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When asked what truth was, he didn’t answer Pilate.
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Sure he did, when he washed his hands, saying I find no fault in Him, even Pilate knew Jesus was the Truth, also Pilate wife said having nothing to do with this righteous man!!
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You should read your Bible.
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There is but one “bible” that holds the truth for mankind: “The Quran is not a book like any other; it is a timeless guide for life, death and the hereafter. Therefore, it necessitates that the reader return to the early narrations of those who witnessed its revelation and heard its explanation by the one deputed by Allah to explain His words to humanity.”
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You have me convinced. I am joining a madrasa tomorrow
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Allahu Akbar
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Let Jah be praised 🎶
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You deserve a better answer than the quib I gave earlier, I shouldn’t give answers while I’m at work, the Bible says that God the Son, Jesus will come to death in this way, In Isaiah 53:7-9 ” Jesus wasn’t going to give a plea, or open His mouth, like a sheep to the shearer is silent, In John 19:8 & 11 Pilate, would later be afraid( verse 8 ), and talk about WHO is in control ( verse 11), Pilate is a pawn, then my God allowed the Romans to crucify Jesus for my and the whole world redemption, see Isaiah 53:10,
the reason Jesus died and rose again is for our sins to be washed away by the Blood of Christ, all the sacrifices were shadows of the real thing, Jesus is the real Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world ( see John 1:29 ), praying your eyes are open to the love of God through Jesus Christ my Lord
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You really are ignorant even of your Bible. Maybe you should spend more time working, and I hope it is productive work not leeching as a parson.
At no time does Jesus answer the question *what is truth* and he only says he is the the way thr truth and whatever in John. In the synoptic gospels he is almost a dumb fellow.
That narrative character must have had a personality problem to think that the world of men needed a saviour from imaginary sins, like sins against the spirit and all. That you believe this nonsense today means you are far from growing up.
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And they say, “The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.” You have done an atrocious thing. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son. And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son. There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant.
— Quran 19 (Maryam (sura)), ayat 88-93
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You know I’m going to use Pascale’s principle if I’m wrong I have nothing to lose, but if I’m right you lose everything,
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It is not a principle. It’s a wager and it is not as straightforward as you present it. Maybe god gets angry every time an idiot mentions Jesus or the god prefers those who think to sheep but best is there is no need to bet. No evidence for a god has been adduced
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Good point. This is why I wear Thor’s hammer as protection against the forces of evil and destruction. If I’m wrong, I lose nothing; but if I’m right, you lose everything.
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Lol Ron, I’m talking about faith in Jesus Christ, if I’m right I lose nothing, but if your wrong you lose everything, and I say this as respectful and sincere as possible, btw, you must be strong to carry Thor’s hammer!! Take care
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Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”
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Allah was some mean sob
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That’s why you must worship him. Pascal’s Wager, friend. Why risk eternal damnation by being an infidel? Allahu Akbar
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Allah will have to send a new book
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Surah Yunus [10:94] : Translation (Sahih International): So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
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This is a fail safe valve.
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Sir, “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, and whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life John 3:16
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Quran (9:30): “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
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For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received; that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
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O People of the Scripture. do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist – it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
— Quran 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 171[4
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Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by His Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also He created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of His nature, upholds the universe by the word of His power. After making purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. Hebrews 1:1-3
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Chatting — it would be much more effective if you could speak for yourself instead of quoting bible scripture. I’m sure you’ve been taught it has “power,” but trust me. It does nothing for most of the people who visit this blog.
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There isn’t anything from me being human I could ever say that compares to the God and Savior Jesus who saved me, “ faith comes by hearing and that by the Word of God” Romans 10:17 But to ask a question ?? Does allah love you? How do you please a god who doesn’t love you if that’s the case ??
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I’m sorry. I was mistaken. I thought you were human. My bad.
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Lol, your asking to speak for myself, the Bible is very clear that in man there is no soundness in him, meaning man’s thoughts are on himself, we think we can please God apart from revealed truth of Gods Word, Jeremiah 10:23 “ I know, O Lord, that the way of man is not in himself, that it is not in man who walks to direct his steps” and in Jeremiah 17:5 “ Thus says the Lord; Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart turns away from the Lord. And in verse 7 “ Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose trust is the Lord” and in verse 9 “ The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately sick; who can understand it? Verse 10 “ I the Lord search the heart and test the mind to give every man according to his ways according to the fruit of his deeds” here is how God sees man,
doomed by their sin. but the kindness of my God and King saved me forgiving all my sins, by placing all my sins on Jesus!! It’s not what I can do for God…no, it’s what God did for me, a penalty I could never earn or pay for, in the New Testament in Titus 2:13-14” waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself to us to redeem us from ALL lawlessness and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession who are zealous for good works” I’m praying that the Holy Spirit gives you ears to hear and eyes to see,
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Well, let me finish this lovely conversation by sending my best wishes that you don’t get carbuncles on your knees from all that praying.
Oh … and if you want to check in again a year or so from now, my views won’t have changed. Guaranteed.
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Hey Nan, I respect the fact you asked, very few will do that, my hope is that you’ll consider Jesus when your life get turned upside down, and it will !! because God loves you and wants you with Him..He’ll use anything to get our attention because the alternative is eternal separation from Him. Be safe by for now
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In its grossest and most servile form quotation is a lazy folly; a thought has received some signal or notorious expression, and as often as the old sense, or something like it, recurs, the old phrase rises to the lips. This degenerates to simple phrase-mongering, and those who practise it are not vigilantly jealous of their meaning.
— Walter Raleigh Style. (1904)
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Nan, are you referring that I believe in God is lazy folly ? or my conversation is lazy folly ? curious is all, actually I like to learn what you meant… thanks
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So people seek your god only when they are deep in shit. Seems happy healthy people have no use for gods
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Hey Nan, when life is (seemly) good there still is issues underneath, when life is bad, that’s when you think maybe there is something better, Jesus came to give us life, and that more abundantly, that doesn’t mean money, health or popular, but you have peace with God, sometimes God allows things to happen to see where your life really is at, have a great Saturday Nan,
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We have a Bible quoting bot here with us
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“He wrapped himself in quotations- as a beggar would enfold himself in the purple of Emperors.”
— Kipling
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I love your quotes!
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Best way to have a mature, intelligent, persuasive conversation, eh. 🙂
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I know. It seems to work quite well
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“Oh, you quote a book, and I’ll quote a book, and we’ll keep a quotin’ til da mornin’!!” Little John to Friar Tuck, circa a long fuckin’ time ago.
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hahaha
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Even Hambo has thoughts of his own. This fellow has none whatsoever
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Next to the originator of a good sentence is the first quoter of it. I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
— Emerson
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Muhammad was the final profit. Only they didn’t know profits sprout out like weeds whenever the environment is right
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“Good grammar is essential, Robin.” – Bruce Wayne/Batman, Batman (TV series)
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You missed the point of Mak’s comment. Jesus did not answer his accusers. All he said to Pilate when accused of being King of the Jews is … “So you say.”
The fact that Pilate (or his wife) did not condemn Jesus has nothing to do with anything. It’s just part of the story that believers choose to use to justify their belief is an itinerant Jew that liked to preach.
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In John where Jesus is chatty, he is asked by Pilate what is truth and he doesn’t answer. In the the synoptic gospels he is almost dumb. I think our interlocutor need to spend more time reading than commenting here.
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I need to answer this question when I’m not at work…Pilate is a Roman official, he’s not the issue, he and the Romans are the pawns Jesus allowed for redemption of the world, John 19:7-16, the conversation comes down WHO is in control of the situation, in verse 11 “you have no authority over me at all unless it had been given from above” and little before in verse 8 Pilate was more afraid !, how can you be afraid of a question never answered ?? Pilate was quickly realizing Jesus was no ordinary man, and you bet in that fear he wanted to release Jesus, however; Pilate feared man more and had Jesus crucified !! he feared Ceasar more, and sadly to his own peril. The question is going to be asked one day, who is Jesus?, and what did you about Him?, praying for your eyes to be opened.
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Excellent question … who is Jesus?
Answer: He was an itinerant Jew who wandered throughout the countryside encouraging the Jewish people to return to Yahweh. To believe he is anything more than that is to swallow the enchanting tales spun by Paul to the Gentiles.
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Jesus, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world John 1;29
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Of course to believe that is to believe the tales spun a VERY, VERY long while ago that have no credibility except in the minds of … guess who? Believers of the tales.
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okay, what do you believe Nan ? where do you get your comfort/protection when the demons come ? believe me I was a jerk before Jesus saved me….knowing the hurtful things I did, God is truly amazing to forgive all my sins and the great thing about that, He knew all I ever would do and still saved me, hallelujah what a Savior !! I really don’t know how people live without Jesus as Lord and Savior
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When WHAT come???
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Nan, I need to go for now, will pick up our conversation tomorrow, but I’ll leave you with this question How do you know you’ll spend eternity with your God ?
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Eternity deals with time — not with death. Although once you die, you are most definitely dead for eternity.
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And as it is appointed to men to die once, and after this, judgement Hebrews 9:27
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That author of Hebrews has no evidence. You have taken leave of your senses if you think she was right
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Who is Jesus? A character in a book no more no less
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Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any deity. [If there had been], then each deity would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him].
— Quran 23 (Al-Mumenoon)
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I think Allah had personality issues.
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Without faith it’s impossible to please God, the one who comes must believe He is and rewards those who diligently seek Him Hebrews 11:6
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What??? Do you actually believe the preachers when they tell you that “the word” has power? HAHAHA! You have been greatly misled. All you’re doing is taking up room in Mak’s comment section.
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With boring comments. I wish he was presenting something interesting and new
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For I’m not ashamed of the gospel of Christ; for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes; to the Jew first and also for the gentile Romans 1:16
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Do you know we all have bibles or can find verses online. So unless you have anything original, stop spamming my humble blog
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okay “And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet” ( Matthew 10;14) I’m here if you have questions, I won’t spam your feed, goodbye sir
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You don’t learn. I hope you have managed to shake the dust that was on your keyboard
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have good life sir…hope you find Jesus
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I am not looking
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I found him. He plays right back for the Sevilla Fútbol Club.
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Does he save balls
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Lol, I like soccer, not very good at it, but still cool sport
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That’s god’s problem, not mine
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Quran (5:51): “O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”
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Quran 5:17 In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary.
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You’re getting really good at this, Jeff! Be careful you don’t start “believing”! 😅😂🤣🙏
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Blasphemy. Blasphemy
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“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was ‘Arrrgh!’” (Piraticus 13:7)
“. . . know that I am your Lord and Master, the FSM. 6 Know that through you, my Noodly
Appendage is Manifest. 7 In Manifest, thou wilt inform those whosoever thou shouldst see most
fitting to rally My people. 8 Thou shalt inform him of the Holiness of Pirates, of my call for their
return. 9 Thou shalt inform him of The Holy Meal, and its importance. 10 Thou shalt inform him
of Bobby, and thou shalt guide him to Bobby. 11 Only then, will thy task be complete.” (The Acts of the Apastals 1:5-11)
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Lol, even in your mockery, God still loves you, praying you see how much that is
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And may you be touched by His Noodly Appendage. He boiled for your edification.
RAmen
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Hahaha. I should read this bible lo
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😀
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