Do fronkeys exist?


The fact that asking “Does fronkey exist?” assumes fronkey exists is quite important. It reminds us that fronkey’s existence is intuitive and known by everyone. Fronkey is not hiding, but maybe we are.

If you think the above premise is sound, you have a problem. It implies if we can think something, the object of our thoughts must really exist beyond our thoughts. This is the species of argument some theists make as an apology for their belief in god. They however, argue that god occupies a special category of objects unlike unicorns or fronkeys so that my restatement of the argument above would not apply to Santa Claus but only to god. I think that is a case of special pleading.

An apologist, Andrew Sveda, in his post, thoughts on god’s existence, argues that to ask the question does god exist implies or assumes god exists in three distinct ways. One, that had we evolved by natural selection, we would not have developed truth seeking abilities; we would have no desire for truth and finally because our lives have meaning and purpose.

Since adaptation improves chances of survival- that is the organism that is best adapted (fittest) to its environment survives, and if truth seeking helps with this adaptation, then it will be developed. And while we have this cognitive ability, how many people use theirs? We have people believing asses talked and Jonah ate a fish and it remained alive for three days in his stomach!

He writes To say someone should believe something because it’s true can only hold if man has some objective purpose, which the atheist must deny. Which is quite interesting. Many people believe as true things that are patently false without any help from atheists. And believing something is true has nothing to do with objective purpose whatever that is. 1+1 is 2 whether your life has purpose or not.

I don’t know, but it seems to me some religious apologists don’t take time even to read on what has been written by other apologists and the responses to those arguments.

And finally, it should always be remembered that however great an argument is, it would take a leap of faith to come from argument for something to the something being actual.

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As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

16 thoughts on “Do fronkeys exist?

  1. ladysighs says:

    Funky Business

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  2. shelldigger says:

    “had we evolved by natural selection, we would not have developed truth seeking abilities”

    What a ridiculous assumption. I wasn’t born with the ability to smell B.S. but I have developed that ability, mostly from stupid arguments like this.

    A: How do they know that? Where lies the evidence for the claim?

    B: “truth seeking abilities” in this instance is obviously code for goddunnit. Which is absurd, and also, no evidence supports the claim.

    C: It is my desire to know truth, that weeded out religions assumption it had any.

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  3. keithnoback says:

    This looks like a rehash of the evolutionary argument against naturalism. That argument works against a certain set of beliefs which includes a correspondence theory of truth. In fact, it seems to me that the primary appeal of the evolutionary argument against naturalism is that it implies an alternative which allows you to have a legitimate correspondence theory of truth (with God providing the correspondence base). The thing is, theories of truth are nothing worth having. Maybe we are all secretly hoping to hug the Tigers. Maybe I am the only person in existence, and the rest of the world is all just my imagining. The trouble is: the “truth” of such speculations is profoundly, thoroughly irrelevant.

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    • makagutu says:

      Your comment got me a reading. Thank you Keith. You are indeed right what sort of argument this theist was rehashing or restating. It would have made all our work easier if he had just mentioned Platinga and CS Lewis somewhere.

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  4. basenjibrian says:

    I myself believe that I, as a Priest of Blue Hummingbird on the Left, my ongoing program of human sacrifice keeps the sun hale, healthy, and rising every morning! I am sure Mr. Sveda would be HAPPY to visit me at my Central American stepped pyramid to volunteer for this important work!

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  5. Fronkeys, also known as French Donkeys, do in fact exist. Technically, I may be one myself.

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