On ethics

Bioethics or otherwise.

Twice I have read from different sources about some of the researches being done in China involving human and humanoid cells which have been claimed to cross the line over what’s allowable.

What in your view is the red line that shouldn’t be crossed and why?

About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

19 thoughts on “On ethics

  1. jeannejam40 says:

    Who decides where the red line is? I think the use of human fetal cells is a good thing, something that can advance humanity! On the other hand I abhor experimenting on humans without their consent such as happening right now with the pushing of the experimental covid vaccines, which are not even really vaccines !


    • maryplumbago says:

      All drugs, vaccines are experimental in the beginning until enough time has gone by to get a clearer picture. I think we know polio, smallpox, measles,tetanus and the like are well into the realm of vital and helpful today. If newer vaccines need tweaking and improvement, they will get that as time goes on. Always progress, be it medical or technical, moves in a forward motion for the betterment for all.

      If by humanoid cells you mean fetal cells, I’m all for it. Many diseases can be treated or eliminated by this medical technology. It does and will save many lives.

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  2. Barry says:

    Any red line is no more than a social construct. It will forever be shifting. However I do believe that what is considered ethical when it comes to research should not be left solely in the hands of researchers.


  3. Personally, I’m not bothered until there’s at least some chance of sentience, which only happens well into the third trimester, long after any of the red lines people typically draw.

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  4. I’ve created a creature by sewing together parts of long dead people and blasting them with lightening. I call my creation, “Dead Parts Guy.” He’s already killed and eaten most of my neighbors, so perhaps I shouldn’t have made him. Oh, well, what kin ya do, eh.

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  5. renudepride says:

    I think the different cultures have varying standards. Far be it from me to judge others solely according to my own values! 🙂 Naked hugs!


  6. basenjibrian says:

    How far should we take this? Falun Gong is a rather nutty cult that dares question the glories of the Chinese Communist Party. Logically and ethically, it would be better that some of the practitioners “donate” some of their organs to more progressive, patriotic Chinese citizens, no?


  7. Ethical standards like all human endeavours are subjected to progress!
    Once it was ethical to eat your enemy’s heart! What might be perceived as ethical today will be of no relevance tomorrow. The human mind will do anything necessary to secure its survival!


    • basenjibrian says:

      Can you PROVE that the Aztec sacrifices to their gods did not keep the sun rising? No? Checkmate, Atheist! (LOL)


      • makagutu says:

        Reminds me of the anthology I did in high school, looking for the rain god and other stories where a girl would be sacrificed after a prolonged drought to appease the rain god. And I think the gods were appeased


        • basenjibrian says:

          I watched the movie The Wicker Man with purported “pagans”. As the police inspector sent to the remote Scottish island to investigate was “sacrificed” to the harvest gods, my companions were cheering, not horrified. Afterwards, we had a ceremony in which they passed around a sacred dagger. Luckily, drawing OUR blood was not required.


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