I don’t know about you, but for me, this is the poorest kind of apologetics. I am aware men more intelligent that yours truly have used modal logic to try to demonstrate or proof the being of a god, this fellow right here is taking us for a really long ride. He tells us, with confidence, that until now, faith has not had evidence thorough enough to convince anyone that a deity has brought this universe into being. First, though, god can be anything- a computer program, a force, could be sentient being or maybe not- who knows.
How are we to get from 111111112 to the existence of a god, you ask? It’s through a specie of the argument from design. We are made to imagine a spire appearing somewhere in Mars. That several probes sent to observe this spire all arrive to the same conclusion that this spire must have been designed. This far, the same arguments that are fatal to the design argument apply here. But let’s hold here it for a moment.
Our interlocutor wants us to believe 1*1=1 because it was designed by some higher intelligence. I have used 1*1=1 instead of 111111112 to make the point that this argument is really weak. Am sure, Neil will agree, that as far as math is concerned, 1*1=1 regardless of the planet we are in. That 111111112 gives us 12345678987654321 is not different from the fact that we get 1 when 1*1. And if you find this beautiful, who am i to stop you, besides, beauty, they say depends on the beerholder.
Maybe I am missing something.
In other interesting news, this Nigerian has decided to tackle superstition in his home country head on. I do hope he manages to stay out of jail for much longer. He, really, is the mad man in the market who has killed god.
gee, math works so therefore “god”, but still unable to show what this god is or which god it is. It is indeed some of the worst apologetics.
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It could be a computer. Doesn’t also have to be one god
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yep, that’s what always guts the monotheist nonsense. they try so hard to pretend that there can only be one god but they have nothing to support that.
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To his credit, he allows for many gods.
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Or a Golden Boot that kicks the arses of all who disbelieve in it!
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Exactly.
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Oh geez, the designer argument? Really? Oh, and maths.
Stinks of crank, kook, or crazy, to me. Only the deluded fall for the idiocy of the deluded.
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Crazy more like it
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Mathematics is man made. So I guess we could conclude from this apologetics argument, that man created God.
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I think we can safely arrive at such a conclusion.
Concluding something is proof of god because it is mirrored is quite lazy
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They come up with these terrible arguments for God, because they are unable to find any good arguments.
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They need not come up with terrible arguments. It would do them justice to admit they have no rational reason to believe save being brought up in that particular tradition.
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Long eared jerboa + 1 sandal = GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good on Gbenga! Nigeria is a seriously messed up country.
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John. 1 sandal= god is pushing it.
Marx had Nigeria in mind when he wrote the second Brumaire to napoleon. First as comedy then as tragedy and Nigeria is both.
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It’s rumored in many countries that long-eared jerboa are, in reality, disguised tree-dropping bears that feed on the flesh of non-Christians. Beware the drop bear, my son, for it will consume you five minutes before you know you’ve been eaten! Or something like that. 🙂
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You will discover 5 minutes later that you were eaten? Are they Jonah’s fish?
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It must be a remarkable new variant of Spring fever. Everyone appears to be losing their mind! Have a great weekend, my Kenyan brother! Naked hugs 🙂
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Spring fever it is!
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I always suffer from Spring fever! 365 days out of the year!
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I read the article on BBC about the Nigerian.
The first line was:
Warning: This article contains details that might be offensive to some readers
I see this warning in so many places. And it irritates me to see the warning.
I always wonder who they thought would be irritated by the content. The religious nuts? or the rational folks? Or is it 50/50.
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There has been a lot of trigger alerts lately. They annoy me on end. It seems humans have become very sensitive to words. They feel like they have been stabbed
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Yes, everybody needs to put on their big boy/big girl panties and deal with it.
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Bigot! There are dozens of genders we don’t even recognize yet. Big Boy Pants is cis privilege!!!
/sarc
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Hahaha. Brian, you will be shot
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I like the term ‘beerholder’, as in most cases like this, too much alcohol or mystical drugs are usually involved when someone has an insightful religious revelation.
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The belief itself induces beer like symptoms. One starts talking to nonexistent beings, seeing twice and all
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Jonmaas doesn’t seem to understand that mathematics is a product of an intelligent being just like the one that created his spire. It is evidence of an intelligent mind (human or alien), not of a supernatural creator. Mathematics is an amazing tool that we have created/developed to help us better understand the world. It doesn’t exist independent of us.
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I agree, Barry, totally.
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