If atheists found out that God is real, what would they do differently in their lives?

I find quora sometimes does have very interesting questions. Notice I say interesting not intelligent.

The first problem( taken literally) with this question implies we believe god is fake or unreal which is a gross misunderstanding of the atheist position. I have no belief in the existence of god or deity.

The second is implied. That the deity we will find is the Abrahamic one who sends you to hell because he loves you very much. Such a deity is terrifying.

If one were to meet, say, the Maori god of earthquakes that Barry was telling me this morning, one could ask them what joy they derived from such destruction? Do they have regrets and can they teach me to create an earthquake?

A meeting with Apollo or was it Bacchus would be a different thing altogether. Maybe we would get so high no meaningful conversation would be possible.

I have digressed.

Atheists live their lives just like other people except they don’t have the tendency to meet on a certain for worship or thank their cats for something that happened to them or that they did and I guess many would continue that way.

Finally, there is an implicit acceptance by this believer that god could as well be real. Or else this believer doesn’t subscribe to an omni god. And I am with anyone who entertains such doubt and I encourage them to move just one step further.

Have a good weekend everyone.

running stories

so now i have been running for almost 8 months. the last time in my life i ever ran this much was in high school. and we had no choice but we could defeat that requirement. i recall we ran on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays. Interesting thing is no one talked about running form, shoes, stretches or warm up. we left our classrooms and went a running. if anyone got injured from running, I can’t remember. I would know.

but since i started running last year, i have had a partial tear of my calf muscle which was a real scare because some doctor was of the opinion i needed surgery yesterday. only reason this didn’t happen is because i used dr. google and it was of the opinion of conservative treatment and two other doctors also agreed with dr. google. so that was it. then this year once the tear had recovered, i resumed running and i think one day i pushed it too hard. this time it was the hamstring that must have been strained but i decided not to see a physician. i think it has healed. i just decided to run and stop only when the pain increased.

this brings me to another debate. use of technology in running. a while back it was elite runners doping on steroids, now i think manufacturers are competing on what shoes will give you competitive advantage. maybe they should just have the shoes run and we choose the best shoe. or shoe and track. no need to have athletes battling it out when shoes can do the trick. i have nothing against good shoes. i run in good shoes. they are so good, tarmac almost feels soft. but they have such a short distance. for example i have done about 560km and if i was to listen to the manufacturer, i should run maybe another 80km in them and get a new pair. sounds much like new phones, if you don’t replace the old one, you don’t receive updates.

but all this is a digression. this is not the story i wanted to tell you. i use a garmin watch & one of the things it comes with is training plans for cycling and running. you can train to run a 5k, 10k or 21k which in americanese would be 3 miles, 6 miles and 13.6 miles respectively. i already attempted the 5k and had a pb of 22minutes. i am still proud of that timing. yesterday in my training plan, i was to do speed repeats: warm up 15min, run at a pace of 4min/km for a minute & jog for 1 minute x6 then run 3:30 min/km for 30 sec and jog for a min x6. I gave up after the 4th attempt of the first bit. I must have been fatigued from the previous day 50km ride. so in the evening i decided to do a recovery run of 10km and felt much better.

i also discovered that running while listening to music can be such a good thing. i have some headphones that have noise cancellation and since i do my runs early in the cool of morning, they are just perfect. and i run towards oncoming traffic so unless some idiot is overtaking dangerously, or drunk driving, i am not so worried about vehicular traffic.

keep it here for my next run.

and now some pictures

thank god i am not a believer

because if I did and wrote something like this, I should be accused of blasphemy. The juicy part that caught my eye is

People in Hell exist. I think this is the most tragic, but also the most tragically beautiful part. Going back to Point 3: all things that exist only exist because God loves them into existence and holds them in existence through His love. Thus, the fact that people in Hell don’t just “disappear into oblivion” is because God is constantly saying to each one of those souls, “I love you, exist in my love. I love you, exist in my love.” Every single soul in Hell is as loved by God as souls in Heaven, Earth, and Purgatory. But, as Point 4 notes: Hell is a prison that is locked from the inside. 

God loves you enough to keep you in hell but not to forgive you and send you to stay in heaven with him. I don’t know what understanding of love this is, but it is the kind I am sure I don’t want. I think this is hat happens when one is committed to a position that is indefensible. You try gymnastics to make it sound reasonable but it doesn’t work.

God loves, even in hell, it just will not get you out.

Exercise vs diet

I understand the pandemic has contributed to some of you gaining weight and with restrictions on movement, no opportunity to burn all the calories you have been taking in. Those who are able to exercise (those new year resolutions) kudos. I hope you manage to keep the pounds down.

I am here to share good news. It should be obvious but I have discovered that things that are generally obvious to me are not so obvious.

In a previous post that I did on weight loss, I mentioned healthy eating, portion size and sustainable plans. This Times article based off some studies in Ecuador and Tanzania show that the difference is in types of food and quantity.

My free advice to anyone struggling with weight is to check their portions, and adopt low calorie dense healthy foods (where possible). And remember to sleep well and drink plenty of water. Sometimes you think you are hungry when you are dehydrated.

To healthy living and better quality of life.

This post is in need of a title

In the ages past, there have been very articulate men and women who spoke for non belief. I don’t know whether such persons were known to the general public or was it just a small section, the elite, that knew them?

France had its Voltaire, Diderot. The English had Percy B Shelley. In the US of A they had Ingersoll, Ernestine Rose, Thomas Paine and I would add Joseph Lewis in East Africa we had Okot p’Bitek. I don’t think I have read any works from Latin America, Asia and China on non belief.

Who would our descendants name as the most articulate advocates of non belief? Who would we say used his wealth & influence like Voltaire to make the world a better place? You know an Ingersoll type?

Whether it is necessary that each generation produces a Darwin, a Newton or Eugenia is altogether open to debate. Maybe the example of these fellows, among others, is sufficient. Who knows. Or maybe Mark Twain was right when he said nature once it finds a product that works produces it en mass with slight variation.

Or maybe I am not making sense.

What sort of evidence are you looking for?

Is a question many atheists have been asked in one form or another. Many have given varied answers to the question and my contribution, though not new, is to say evidence that would be accepted by any reasonable person/observer.

But who is a reasonable observer/person?


Abstract philosophy and exercise is only suited for that person who is well fed and housed. The practical man or woman has use for philosophy to the extent to which it is relevant to their lives and until professional philosophers address issues of practical men and women, their works will remain in university bookshelves read only by other professional philosophers.

Wild goose chasing

Nan has had some interesting posts lately on extraterrestrial life and the possibility of our meeting them. Or their visiting us. And this has got me thinking, good money is being spent on space exploration and there is a race going on at the moment on who will take man to Mars first? There are a myriad of world crises that that money would help solve. Before you become Jesus & tell me the poor you will always have with you, hear me out.

I am aware that some of the research for space travel & living has yielded useful solutions for the here and now. But I think this has been by accident. So these kind of results would still be arrived at had money been poured towards their solving.

But back to extraterrestrials, is it out of cosmic loneliness that we seek them while at the same time working towards our annihilation? Or is it borne out of the desire to show, once and for all, the creationists that we are not alone?

What are your thoughts?


And a little digression, occasionally when I am reading a book or watching a movie, I find my eyes pissing when either a character or the narrator moves Me. And most times this happens when the writer manages, with pen and paper, to express humanity at its finest. You know, like a great show of love, joy, comradeship or something of that kind.