Of wise men in the bible

The exploits of Solomon, he who we are told was the wisest of men, resemble those of Nero with one striking difference, YHWH put a stamp of approval on them.

He strikes Adonijah, sends Abiathar to exile, orders the killing of Joab, restricted Shimei’s movement just to name a few.

Or maybe this is how to be wise, eliminate your enemies first.

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Charitable reading of the bible

Mathew 6:26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

Can this, in our times, be read as an injunction against greed and over accumulation of wealth and material goods, some of which we have no use for and instead think about those things that no thief can steal from us, you know, like art, works of science and so on. If we really claim to be better than the higher animals, we need to show it in our deeds.

No thief, whatever his arms, can deprive me of what I know. He can kill me, yes, but it doesn’t benefit him not humanity to deprive me of my life. Our current economic system that survives on extraction, exploitation and on the belief that the more we have, the happier we are likely to be only to discover with constant ads, we desire to accumulate more useless things.

Or maybe we are destined to kill ourselves because we all want to extract and exploit our next door neighbour, who knows?

A question for Christians

In the last post where we had questions for theists, the response we received from the only theist who participated was that the bible is a collection of myths [  and we here agree]. We don’t know how many believers agree with the above assessment and how they continue to hold on to the said beliefs. How is it possible to consider the bible myth and still believe in the god it talks about? How is this different from knowing Harry Potter is fiction and believing that Hogwarts is a real place/ school.

With that background, our question comes from a reading of Ezekiel 37:1-10. We ask you to put this questions in light of the ending of Mark where the believers are told they will move mountains, hold venomous snakes and so and consider, too, that with the faith of a mustard seed they can move mountains.

1. Did the animated bones die again?

2. If this god could animate bones, why do we have sick people in hospitals who would appreciate such animation?

3. Does the bible god have ego issues that it had to assuage it by performing such acts of magic?

4. Where did god disappear to? He seems to have stopped leading people in valleys full of bones.

“The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. He asked me, ‘Son of man, can these bones live?’ I said, ‘O Sovereign LORD, you alone know.’ Then he said to me, ‘Prophesy to these bones and say to them, ‘Dry bones, hear the word of the LORD! This is what the Sovereign LORD says to these bones: I will make breath enter you, and you will come to life. I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.’ So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone. I looked, and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was no breath in them. Then he said to me, ‘Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, that they may live.’ So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet – a vast army. [Ez 37:1-10]

 

 

Chapter 17

Abraham and the Covenant of Circumcision

17 Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him,

“I am God Almighty[there are other gods, so he must identify himself correctly];
Walk before Me, and be blameless[with his propensity for pimping am not sure he will manage this].
“I will establish My covenant between Me and you[I could be wrong, but a while ago, they had established a covenant. Is this a new covenant],
And I will multiply you exceedingly.”

Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him[this is a new scribe, Abram has fear before the lord. Before they just spoke], saying,

“As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you,
And you will be the father of a multitude of nations[Abe and his god already went through this. I’ve asked if this god has a memory problem or he inspires his scribes to repeat what he has already said].
“No longer shall your name be called Abram,
But your name shall be Abraham;
For I have made you the father of a multitude of nations.

I will make you exceedingly fruitful, and I will make nations of you, and kings will come forth from you[ The scribe here is establishing a lineage for kings as we shall see later ending in the gospels]. I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you[ If I understand this correctly, Abraham’s God is asking that he be his God and his descendants not for everyone. ].I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God [Unless there is a different explanation, I insist this God is Abraham’s and his descendants and them alone].”

V9 -13   Is the statement and conditions of the covenant between God, Abraham, his descendants and his slaves. How many christians follow this covenant is doubtful. Recently a court in Germany found circumcision of infant boys to be criminal.

14 But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant[this god demands a lot of servitude. what does he want with male foreskins?].”

15 Then God said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name.

Honest Abe, Sarah and Hagar

16 I will bless her, and indeed I will give you a son by her. Then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples will come from her.” 17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed[even Abe found his god’s promise to be ridiculous or else why is he laughing?], and said in his heart, “Will a child be born to a man one hundred years old? Andwill Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?”

18 And Abraham said to God, “Oh that Ishmael might live before You!” 19 But God said, “No, but Sarah your wife will bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. 20 As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation[just asking, why not make a covenant with both of them? They are all sons of honest Abe]. 21 But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this season next year.” 22 When He finished talking with him, God went up from Abraham[god must reside somewhere or why he would he go up? while still on the point of going up, could the NASA scientists driving curiosity tell us if they have shots of this heavenly palace unless it’s further up].

23 Then Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all the servants who were born in his house and all who were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham’s household, and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the very same day, as God had said to him. 24 Now Abraham was ninety-nine years old [he will be past 100yrs when Isaac is born and just so you don’t ask me later; Sarah his wife/sister is 10yrs his junior] when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 25 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 26 In the very same day Abraham was circumcised, and Ishmael his son. 27 All the men of his household, who were born in the house or bought with money from a foreigner, were circumcised with him[who was doing the circumcision? This order has just been issued, how did they ensure the procedure is safe? Am just asking].

Chapter 16

Sarai and Hagar

16 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife/sister had borne him no children[nothing new here, when she was introduced in an earlier chapter, we were told she was barren], and she had an Egyptian maid whose name was Hagar. So Sarai said to Abram, “Now behold, the Lord has prevented me from bearing children[We can’t blame here here, knowledge of reproduction was not understood at this point in time. She could safely blame one of the gods for stopping her from getting pregnant].Please go in[i hope you know what this means] to my maid; perhaps I will obtain children through her.” And Abram listened to the voice of Sarai. After Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Abram’s wife Sarai took Hagar the Egyptian, her maid, and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife.

He went in to Hagar, and she conceived; and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her sight.[Why change of heart? she has just told Abe to get himself children with Hagar]

And Sarai said to Abram, “May the wrong done me be upon you[where is the wrong? she authorized the relationship]. I gave my maid into your arms, but when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her sight. May the Lord judge between you and me.” But Abram said to Sarai, “Behold, your maid is in your power; do to her what is good in your sight[why is Abram shirking responsibility, does he expect Sarai to be merciful to Hagar?].” So Sarai treated her harshly, and she fled from her presence.

Lets just say, Hagar being shown the door by Sarai

Now the angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur. He said, “Hagar, Sarai’s maid, where have you come from and where are you going?” And she said, “I am fleeing from the presence of my mistress Sarai [Sarai must be a vile woman, whence did she expect a pregnant Hagar to go?].” Then the angel of the Lord said to her, “Return to your mistress, and submit yourself  to her authority.” 10 Moreover, the angel of the Lord said to her, “I will greatly multiply your descendants so that they will be too many to count[so the angels could also make this prmise, or it just the reserve of the gods? I need help here].”11 The angel of the Lord said to her further,

“Behold, you are with child,
And you will bear a son[in future this same message will be told to some other maiden];
And you shall call his name Ishmael[ now you know where the Muslims get their descendants from through Abram, just in case you were not in the know],
Because the Lord has given heed to your affliction.

12 “He will be a wild donkey of a man[ what does this mean?],
His hand will be against everyone,
And everyone’s hand will be against him;
And he will live to the east[how far is this east from the initial east? Have they not started going west yet?] of all his brothers.”

13 Then she called the name of the Lord who spoke to her, “You are a God who sees”; for she said, “Have I even remained alive here after seeing Him[later on we will be told no one can see the lord and live. So either the scribe was not aware of these times when people saw God or he will change his mind about being seen]?” 14 Therefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered.

15 So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore[why the repetition], Ishmael[I thought he was given this name by the gods or is it Abram, am confused here].16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to him[this guy has vitality, seriously at 86!].

Genesis 14

War of the Kings

Before we start the business of looking at this chapter, I want us to have some perspective. We have Noah disembarking from the ark at the end of the flood and his family spreading. Without fear of contradiction, if the bible story is to be believed, the earth at this point in time is populated by Noah’s family, so unless a plausible explanation is proffered, we take it that the kings mentioned in this chapter, lived in a place where the flood did not reach. If this true, then we can stretch it further and say that they were created by a different skygod.

14 V1-3 is a report of the kings involved in a war i don’t know it’s purpose or source.

From V4 we have the progress of the wars and at the end we have Lot taken as spoils of war at V12

13 Then a fugitive came and told Abram the Hebrew[Why call him Abram the Hebrew? So far we know of only one Abram, why does this scribe have to give him a tribe?]. Now he was living by the oaks of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and brother of Aner, and these were  allies with Abram. 14 When Abram heard that his relative[did he not know that it’s his nephew?] had been taken captive, he led out his trained men, born in his house, three hundred and eighteen, and went in pursuit as far as Dan[Abram’s family are herdsmen and are 300m in number, how will they pursue and fight 4 armies of trained horsemen and soldiers or is this a comic? Since there is no mention of Abram’s god intervening, we can safely assume the scribe misinterpreted facts as told him by god or he created his own story]. 15  He divided his forces against them by night, he and his servants, and defeated them, and pursued them as far as Hobah, which is north of Damascus. 16 He brought back all the goods, and also brought back his relative Lot with his possessions, and also the women, and the people[just a minute, are the possessions more important than the women and the people(slaves)?].

God’s Promise to Abram

17 Then after his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him, the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the valley of Shaveh (that is, the King’s Valley). 18 AndMelchizedek king of Salem[we will meet this guy later in the NT in Hebrews, so please keep that in mind] brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High[this must be taken there are other gods but Abram’s god is most high]. 19 He blessed him and said,

“Blessed be Abram of God Most High,

Melchizedeck blessing Abram

Possessor of heaven and earth;
20 And blessed be God Most High,
Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”

He gave him a tenth of all[now you know why the pastor is always asking for a 1/10th of your earnings]. 21 The king of Sodom said to Abram, “Give the people to me and take the goods for yourself.” 22 Abram said to the king of Sodom, “I have sworn to the Lord God Most High,  possessor of heaven and earth, 23 that I will not take a thread or a sandal thong or anything that is yours, for fear you would say, ‘I have made Abram rich.’ 24 I will take nothing except what the young men have eaten, and the share of the men who went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their share[pause, a few chapters earlier, Abe pimped his wife for goats, slaves and donkeys. Now he is being given the same for free and he is declining to accept. Has something changed or has he just come to the realization that the first act was improper. The jury is out. I await your verdict].”

Genesis 13

Abram and Lot

13 So Abram went up from Egypt to the Negev, he and his wife and all that belonged to him, and Lot with him.

Now Abram was very rich in livestock, in silver and in gold[proceeds from pimping].He went on his journeys from the Negev as far as Bethel, to the place where his tent had been at the beginning, between Bethel and Ai, to the place of the altar which he had made there formerly; and there Abram called on the name of the Lord.

Now Lot, who went with Abram, also had flocks and herds and tents. And the land could not sustain them while dwelling together, for their possessions were so great that they were not able to remain together

Lot and his flock

 And there was strife between the herdsmen of Abram’s livestock and the herdsmen of Lot’s livestock. Now the Canaanite and the Perizzite were dwelling then in the land[ family strife between father of faith and his nephew? Couldn’t they just find a way to live in peace or is there something we are not being told].

 So Abram said to Lot, “Please let there be no strife between you and me, nor between my herdsmen and your herdsmen, for we are brothers[how much livestock and slaves did these two families own to the point they could not stay together amicably?]. Is not the whole land before you? Please separate from me; if to the left, then I will go to the right; or if to the right, then I will go to the left.” 10 Lot lifted up his eyes and saw all the  valley of the Jordan, that it was well watered everywhere—this was before the Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah—like the garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt as you go to Zoar. 11 So Lot chose for himself all the valley of the Jordan, and Lot journeyed eastward. Thus they separated from each other. 12 Abram settled in the land of Canaan, while Lot settled in the cities of the valley, and moved his tents as far as Sodom. 13 Now the men of Sodom were wicked exceedingly and sinners against the Lord [Now lets pose a while. A few chapters back every living thing was destroyed in a flood from most high, so where do the wicked people in Sodom come from? Every one on earth at this point in time is Noah’s descendant. Unless there are people who survived the flood or there were other people in existence not of Noah’s ancestry!]

14 The Lord said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, “ Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; 15  for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever[why wait for Lot to leave? Does this God have preferential treatment? Is he just Abram’s God alone or is it the God of everyone?]. 16 I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth, so that if anyone can number the dust of the earth, then your descendants can also be numbered[ where will all this people stand?]. 17 Arise, walk about the land through its length and breadth; for I will give it to you.” 18 Then Abram moved his tent and came and dwelt by the  oaks of Mamre, which are in Hebron, and there he built an altar to the Lord [Enough said, but just a thought, what material were they using to make their tents?].