An introduction

I have been told that since I haven’t read the Koran, I should not comment on it. To add on this I have also been told to read books by Muslims on Islam because atheists are biased and know zilch about Islam. Now most Muslims writing on Islam write in Arabic, the language of their dog, and yours truly doesn’t have the time nor the patience to learn Arabic since I have no intention of wooing a girl in Arabic :-D, English does it for me.

It is for this reason that I introduce a great friend of mine who spends time getting us videos by Muslims on Islam. Please enjoy. My friend is called Mike just so you know.

Errors in the perfect Koran

Islam is a religion of peace

Stupidity in Islam[ I have no better title for this]

Belief in god: liberating or prohibiting

Some things about the Koran

And lastly as a bonus, a post from my friend John

Too stupid for Christianity, try Islam

Thunder

First, to explain the genesis of this title, it is a free donation from my friend Meme.

Since this week we are dedicating to Islam, the Koran has a surah Ar -Rad[Thunder] from which we will see what Mo was told about things that will affect future generations.

Before I continue with this I have a few declarations to make. I haven’t read the whole Koran and it is not anywhere in my reading list and therefore anyone versed in the Koran can correct me where am wrong.

Two, I consider Islam to be a danger to the society; one in the way it treats women, their disdain for science [books on evolution were burned in Turkey towards the end of last year. A relevant post can be found in why evolution is true], their treatment of people of other faiths in their midst especially in countries that are mainly Muslim and lastly the desire by a small minority to resort to violence whenever their religion is questioned.

Muslims are mainly fundamentalist to the core. I don’t know whether it is by training, that they are taught to not read anything by non Muslims. In this sense, they think that only an exposition on Islam written by a Muslim should be read and to boot it would be better if it is written in Arabic. I got news for you. I don’t care for your apologists. I will read whatever I want written on Islam by whoever writes it. And I will use an English translation of the Koran for my purposes. You can insist all you want that a Koran to be so valid has to be in Arabic. Is your god unable to communicate in another language or Arabic a language spoken by just is a portion of the world population his lingua franca?

Lastly, until the Muslim just like the Judaist or the Christian can define a coherent god and then prove that this god exists, don’t tell me the Koran was revealed. Use another word but I prefer plagiarized or copied for my purposes. Having laid the ground rules we can now have a bit of fun

For each one are successive [angels] before and behind him who protect him by the decree of Allah . Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron.

We have been discussing the problem of evil in some previous posts and just as I indicated in the bible, here too we have the author telling us when Allah intends ill there is no escaping. I called the christian god a fiend and a cruel bastard, cruel still is Allah. No invoking human free will as a reason for existence of evil.

It is He who shows you lightning, [causing] fear and aspiration, and generates the heavy clouds.

Now you know when you see clouds who has generated them. Forget cooling and condensation of air as it rises and when you see lightening forget meeting of charges, nothing like that, it’s Allah announcing his presence.

And the thunder exalts [ Allah ] with praise of Him – and the angels [as well] from fear of Him – and He sends thunderbolts and strikes therewith whom He wills while they dispute about Allah ; and He is severe in assault.

Next time don’t hide under your table when the thunder is so loud, it is bowing to Allah. What I don’t know is whether it’s face also looks to Mecca and the ass to everywhere else in this supplication?

But those who break the covenant of Allah after contracting it and sever that which Allah has ordered to be joined and spread corruption on earth – for them is the curse, and they will have the worst home.

If this home is what I think it is, then this god is no different from his counterpart worshiped by the Christians who creates hell for his children he so dearly loves!

And if there was any qur’an by which the mountains would be removed or the earth would be broken apart or the dead would be made to speak, [it would be this Qur’an], but to Allah belongs the affair entirely. Then have those who believed not accepted that had Allah willed, He would have guided the people, all of them? And those who disbelieve do not cease to be struck, for what they have done, by calamity – or it will descend near their home – until there comes the promise of Allah . Indeed, Allah does not fail in [His] promise.

I haven’t tried trying to move mountains with anything since I don’t own an earth mover but am hoping one of our Muslim brothers with the Koran[the Arabic version] should try this and report back to us. I would like to use it some other time to bring the office closer to my house, I really need to sleep more.

The example of Paradise, which the righteous have been promised, is [that] beneath it rivers flow. Its fruit is lasting, and its shade. That is the consequence for the righteous, and the consequence for the disbelievers is the Fire.

Paradise must have been more like the Euphrates and Tigris, the area around Mesopotamia, a truly agricultural town.

And those who have disbelieved say, “You are not a messenger.” Say, [O Muhammad], “Sufficient is Allah as Witness between me and you, and [the witness of] whoever has knowledge of the Scripture.”

As I have said elsewhere, a thing is only defended when it is contested. Unless the person doing the revelation is talking about a distant time, this need not be said.

Our next post will be on silence and I hope the Koran has something on it 😀

Ramblings on Islam

Folks, this week our christian friends are preparing to celebrate a pagan holiday which for them represents the very foundation of their belief and which if the guy existed can only be suicide by centurion. Today we will give them a break, we will be dealing with their cousins,[ who by the way think Christians got it all wrong somewhere] the muslims. They will for this week whenever possible be the brunt of jokes, criticism and anything that can be hurled their way.

To start as off, why do Muslims insist on their women wearing tents? How do they see where they are going to and how do they run in the event they need to?

This is what it means to wear a tent. How do you even know your relative if you were not in the house when she was leaving?

This is what it means to wear a tent. How do you even know your relative if you were not in the house when she was leaving?

and why then not be fair to all. If it is tents, then it should be tents all the way, not this

why this discrimination?

why this discrimination?

I know if any of them come here they will tell me oh the prophet said this or that about dressing. Please I don’t want to hear those lines. The prophet if he existed is dead he can’t be ruling women from the grave.

You are aware there are close to a billion followers of this cult and they all believe the Koran to be the ultimate in literature and it is only koran if it is in Arabic. I don’t care for Arabic and am not interested in knowing and so we can for our purposes use an English translation to just see how marvelous the said book is, shall we?

We will be looking at 2 Al-Baqara [286]

8 And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: “We believe in Allah and the Last Day” while in fact they believe not.

Tell me this ain’t a vestige from the NT Mathew 7:21

9 They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!

10 In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies.

11 And when it is said to them: “Make not mischief on the earth,” they say: “We are only peace-makers.”

12 Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.

13 And when it is said to them (hypocrites): “Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم, Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed,” they say: “Shall we believe as the fools have believed?” Verily, they are the fools, but they know not.

14 And when they meet those who believe, they say: “We believe,” but when they are alone with their Shayatin (devils – polytheists, hypocrites), they say: “Truly, we are with you; verily, we were but mocking.”

15 Allah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong-doing to wander blindly.

Maybe I don’t know good prose, but please tell me where such a composition it can be so-called is glorious? Where is this better than the opening paragraph to a Tale of Two Cities or two any narration in Brothers Karamazov or Lolita?

Then the ultimate challenge

23 And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur’an) to Our slave (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), then produce a Surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful.

and then the most able response, by Al Razi[865-925 CE],  I have come across

You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Koran. You say: “Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one.” Indeed, we shall produce a thousand similar, from the works of rhetoricians, eloquent speakers and valiant poets, which are more appropriately phrased and state the issues more succinctly. They convey the meaning better and their rhymed prose is in better meter. ,  By God what you say astonishes us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: “Produce something like it”?!

It gets more ridiculous

31 And He taught Adam all the names (of everything) , then He showed them to the angels and said, “Tell Me the names of these if you are truthful.”

In Genesis Chapter 2, the second creation story, the animals are made to do a match by as Adam names them. How this story is so different, I hope some random muslim will enlighten us.

34 And (remember) when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves before Adam.”. And they prostrated except Iblis (Satan), he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers (disobedient to Allah).

Friends, tell me how is this useful information?

And if this is not plagiarism, then for the life of me I don’t know what is

49 And (remember) when We delivered you from Fir’aun’s (Pharaoh) people, who were afflicting you with a horrible torment, killing your sons and sparing your women, and therein was a mighty trial from your Lord.

At least this god doesn’t claim omnipresence. He is a unidirectional god no wonder all heads face Mecca and all asses elsewhere

149 And from wheresoever you start forth (for prayers), turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-Al-Haram (at Makkah), that is indeed the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.

To be continued, this book doesn’t seem to be ending soon anyway 😀