Socrates and religious persecution

To most of us, the mention of Socrates elicits either the thoughts about being a good citizen, dying a good death or the Socratic dialogues brought to us by Plato. In his apology, he asks his hearers not to consider him extravagant when he tells them the god at Delphi declared him the wisest of men. He narrates his search for a man wiser than himself and at last comes to the conclusion that the Oracle was indeed right. He concludes thus

Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than he is – for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, then, I seem to have slightly the advantage of him.

There is another way of looking at the trial and subsequent sentence of Socrates, one that I guess others may have written on. I digress to mention the accusers he identified. Of the first accusers he says he can’t name them, that he will fight their shadows. They charge him as follows

Socrates is an evil-doer, and a curious person, who searches into things under the earth and in heaven, and he makes the worse appear the better cause; and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others.

The second class of accusers, of whom we are interested, represented by Meletus he says charge him thus

That Socrates is a doer of evil, and corrupter of the youth, and he does not believe in the gods of the state, and has other new divinities of his own.

If you haven’t noticed, Socrates’ trial was/ is a case of religious intolerance. There is no difference between the trial of Socrates and that of George William Foote tried in Britain for similar crimes in the late 19th Century.

I hope I haven’t lost you as yet. I don’t want to bore you with history, there is a case like this at present and we need your help to ensure this is the last of them.

In Saudi Arabia, a young man has been accused of atheism and spreading atheistic ideas (via the internet), and sentenced to six years in prison and 600 lashes – he appealed, and the appeals court not only maintained the conviction, but increased the sentence to 10 years and 1000 lashes.

It saddens me to hear that somewhere on this rock we inhabit, a man is not free to hold and express an honest opinion. That those who claim to worship gods seem to be as savage as they gods they worship. They worship gods who kill, or condone killing are tyrants and for whom, all honest men cannot point to one thing that heavens have has done to humanity other than being the reason is some conflicts that have led to massive loss of lives.

There is a petition to the UN that I think all of you are going to sign to abolish blasphemy laws and most of all seek the immediate release of the said young man. If gods exist and they are powerful, they can handle their shit. The question we demand to be answered is on whose authority do those who punish others for offenses deemed to have been committed against god act?  And how was this authority given them?

Let us join hands and fight this inhumane act. Let us not be silent. And in the words of pastor Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out– Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.

About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

30 thoughts on “Socrates and religious persecution

  1. Mordanicus says:

    >>In Saudi Arabia, a young man has been accused of atheism and spreading atheistic ideas (via the internet), and sentenced to six years in prison and 600 lashes – he appealed, and the appeals court not only maintained the conviction, but increased the sentence to 10 years and 1000 lashes.

    The only good thing about this, is that he didn’t got a death sentence…


  2. themodernidiot says:

    I feel worse for their women. No matter what they believe, they are shit.


  3. john zande says:

    We just did an article for the NYT’s about an Indonesian man, 26 year old Alex Aan, who spent 19 months in jail for the same “crime.” Madness.


  4. Aquileana says:

    Great summary and sort of tribute to Socrates, makagutu.
    Thanks for sharing, Aquileana 😉


  5. Arkenaten says:

    Now there’s a reason for a coup or military intervention if ever there was a need.
    Trouble is, the invaders would largely be ”Christian’ and we’d be off on another Crusade.
    Nutters, all of them.


  6. fabryhistory says:

    Thank you for telling me about this – I will definitely sign that petition.


  7. Powerful piece!


  8. archaeopteryx1 says:

    Excellent, Mak.


  9. Eric Alagan says:

    “…And how was this authority given them?…”

    By divine grace, of course.

    Pardon me while I pull up my pants – lest anyone sees my a%#@ laughing!


  10. okuodo says:

    this absurd so so so, it is so saddening religion extremism is suicidal to our human choices n options


  11. aguywithoutboxers says:

    An awesome manifesto, my Nairobi brother! Freedom of expression is one of the basic human rights. Funny, in a country where one family controls the majority of the wealth and indulges in every behavior except those subscribed to by its belief system finds it necessary to restrict the thoughts of another. Repression is a dangerous game to play when history has taught us that retribution demands a terrible price. Thank you for sharing this with us! Much love and naked hugs! 🙂


    • makagutu says:

      What irks me most, is atheists are accused of blasphemy when it is the god believers who are blasphemous. They tell us their all loving god will burn some people in hell for eternity for finite crimes. Isn’t that the height of blasphemy?

      I agree with the fellow who said blasphemy is opposing the priest regardless of the stripe of faith he adheres to.

      Thanks for reading. Many hugs to you too.


  12. archaeopteryx1 says:

    Sudanese woman sentenced to death for apostasy

    KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) — A Muslim-by-birth Sudanese woman who married a Christian man was sentenced to death Thursday after she refused to recant her Christian faith, her lawyer said.

    Meriam Ibrahim, whose father was Muslim but her mother was an Orthodox Christian from Ethiopia, was convicted of “apostasy” on Sunday and given four days to repent and escape death, lawyer Al-Shareef Ali al-Shareef Mohammed said.

    The 26 year old, who is eight months pregnant, was sentenced after that grace period expired, Mohammed>


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