Who between the Egyptians, the Greeks or the Arabs first invented mathematics? Here, I mean not just how many bushels make a loaf but calculations for pi, hypotenuse, area of a sphere and so on?

Diop maintain it was the Egyptians and there are papyrus dating far back as 2000bce to prove it.

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I am imagining whoever the Pleaidians contacted first, Maka. Given the construction of pyramids far beyond the capacity of man, obviously the Egyptians. 🙂

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Haha.

Do you think there is a way we could ask them to share with us the knowledge of constructing the pyramids?

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It seems likely that a lot of these things were developed independently. For a long time these things had little application. In India, although admittedly much later around (1000 BCE), you have fairly complicated trigonometry, geometry, and wide order of magnitude in numbers written into vedic poetry. In some cases they found the math intentionally wrong just for purposes of making verses rhyme. lol But it seems to me that a lot of math is discoverable without any real existing applications. Ancient Indian society simply found math as beautiful and evidence of the beauty of the universe. The Greeks seem to have had similar attitudes towards geometry. Pythagoras even had his own cult centered around geometry and rational numbers! Yeah he wasn’t a big fan of pi. lol

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The argument is that Pythagoras, Aristotle, Galen were plagiarists. They failed to acknowledge their teachers.

Indeed, I think any advanced civilization with a group of people whose material existence is taken care of will be able to come up with some math.

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Here’s a decent, detailed write-up on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics

“The most ancient mathematical texts available are Plimpton 322 (Babylonian c. 1900 BC), the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus (Egyptian c. 2000–1800 BC), and the Moscow Mathematical Papyrus (Egyptian c. 1890 BC). All of these texts concern the so-called Pythagorean theorem, which seems to be the most ancient and widespread mathematical development after basic arithmetic and geometry.

Prehistoric artifacts discovered in Africa, dated 20,000 years old or more suggest early attempts to quantify time.The Ishango bone, found near the headwaters of the Nile river (northeastern Congo), may be more than 20,000 years old and consists of a series of tally marks carved in three columns running the length of the bone. Common interpretations are that the Ishango bone shows either the earliest known demonstration of sequences of prime numbers or a six-month lunar calendar.”

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I will go through it in a bit

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The Egyptians used a base-ten system, had some fractions, and knew about the 3-4-5 right triangle, and some other geometry. But they didn’t have the idea of place value. The Babylonians gave us the 360º circle. A lot of our math came from ancient Greece, but our placeholder zero came from India, I think.

Any civilization that has a central government is going to have do develop basic mathematics, so it can keep track of tax collections. I don’t think any one culture invented math, every culture developed some, and then advances in one civilization spread out to others.

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Or God simply implanted the knowledge, along with morality, how to make beer, and the Television Remote control.

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You are on to something my friend.

I mean they have told us logic is not possible without their magical overlord. Why would math be exempt?

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To keep in the dark for longer?

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The claim here is that ancient Greece didn’t give us the math but that they were students of the Egyptians. Pythagoras et al, were in Egypt, visiting the temples in Memphis, learning from the Egyptian priests.

Quoting R.J Gillings and even Peet with whom there is some divergence, the question about Egyptian origin seems settled.

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Math was given to humans by beings from outer space around the year 1230 ALTA (a long time ago). Don’t you watch YouTube videos? 🙂

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I have watched the series. That’s why I think this is very suspect

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You mean there actually is a series like this? Wow. You simply can’t make up anything that some wacko’s don’t already postulate as truth.

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And don’t forget Rule 34.

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And here I thought math was just made up to punish modern children for having a relatively better existence than their parents. I learned something new today.

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I always had the same feeling

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I know the Indians invented 0 (zero)

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That’s counting beginning with zero or the use of zero? Like 10?

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Like 10, 100, 1,000… I think?

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I will look at the time scales and see what I can find

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Then there’s nothing to talk about.

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Alternatively, how something (everything) can come from nothing 🙂

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Ah! So it’s a Creationist comedy, then?

“Much à Dieu About Nothing”

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Touche’

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