Theists, not all of them, but most tell us without god, their particular god, logic is impossible.
Are they saying without god, two and two equal seven?
Are they saying without god, a thing can be and not be at the same time?
Or is it possible to have a triangle without angles?
The answer to the above questions is a resounding no. Gods are useless in the sphere of logic. They add nothing to it.
On the contrary, no law of logic is abused by the statement there is no god(s).
Others have argued god exists out of time. Created time and space. All existence we know of is in time.
I need help in understanding existence out of time.
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