who knew


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[..]. Precious few God-deniers have so much as even attempted a rational evaluation of the question of God’s reality.

one would be tempted to ask why are apologists busy creating new silly arguments to defend their chimeras if it was not the challenge from the godless?

This post says nothing in so many words.

This however has me banging my head against bricks

You might have heard atheists talking more about achieving peace and unity among men instead of meditating upon the significance of our Lord’s incarnation. But how could they even properly speak of “peace and unity” if they believe that God does not exist? Peace and unity presuppose order and order presupposes God. Without God, there will be no principle or reason to which we shall unite or strive for peace. The only virtue that a materialistic worldview could provide is the survival of fittest. There is nothing more.

Where to begin? What has belief in god to do with peace? Somewhere in that christian book of tales, it’s written

  Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Mathew 10:34)

If the christian believes in an omni god, whence cometh disorder? Who has allowed disorder to reign and why has omni not prevented it from taking root? In Genesis 11:1-11, god is the author of confusion, not men.

We live in a society of men and with discord, that society cannot long survive.

In a society where survival for the fittest is a virtue, peacefulness would be preferred to war. So i don’t see how this post is an argument against survival for the fittest or was the author just looking for words to throw around?

If Christians took their belief seriously, I think very few if none would join an army to kill brothers and sisters with whom they have no reason to be at war with. Tolstoy’s the Kingdom of God is within you would be their to go to book. Or if not, the many tomes against war wouldn’t have to be written, especially in christian nations.

In Mark Twain’s war prayer, after one side has finished offering their prayers to the god of war, these fellow approaches the pulpit to make them aware of the prayer that was not said and they conclude he was a mad man.

About makagutu

As Onyango Makagutu I am Kenyan, as far as I am a man, I am a citizen of the world

22 thoughts on “who knew

  1. john zande says:

    But how could they even properly speak of “peace and unity” if they believe that God does not exist?

    O-k-a-y, this person wins something for that. I’m not sure what exactly, but they deserve a prize.

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  2. maryplumbago says:

    These religious nuts are just crazy..pure and simple

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  3. foolsmusings says:

    It’s amazing that these people actually believe that not only do we need to rationalize our non belief in something which is ridiculous but think we need to do so based on their own bizarre paradigms.

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  4. Bat-shit crazy stuff here. EVERYONE who is rational knows Christianity is the Devil’s religion. Only Islam is true. When, oh when, will these fool Christians ever learn!

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  5. Whenever I see the word “presuppose” used without irony, I tend to just move on. Ever since that one Calvinist visited my blog and tried ranting about how logic can’t be logic without presupposing his deity. It was a nightmare.

    Also, I read the first quoted blog. The author accidentally outlines the rhetorical reasons why some atheists phrase things the way they do. I wonder how long it will take this person to figure out that the last line of the post cuts worse against theists than atheists.

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  6. [..]. Precious few God-deniers have so much as even attempted a rational evaluation of the question of God’s reality.

    Rational “evaluations” cannot prove the existence (or nonexistence) of God. Anyone can rationalize anything. Only empirical evidence can prove the existence of God… and, there isn’t any.

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    • makagutu says:

      Is rational evaluation of god belief even possible. The believer says I believe so it’s true.

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      • Yes, virtually anything can be rationalized. All it takes is a little logic regardless of how flawed it might be. For example, I asserted in grade school that the sky is blue because sunlight is reflected back up by the blue oceans. This made sense to me and to some other students, but it is factually wrong. Blue skies result from the scattering of shorter wavelengths of sunlight as it passes through the atmosphere, which was discovered empirically via science.

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  7. basenjibrian says:


    [..]. Precious few God-deniers have so much as even attempted a rational evaluation of the question of God’s reality.”

    Why would I waste my time? Their God, their religion, and their religionists are so historically vile that even if He existed, rebellion is the only moral response. I have a moral revulsion to Christianity, not a rational one.

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  8. “Precious few God-deniers have so much as even attempted a rational evaluation of the question of God’s reality.”

    aka “i’m upset and lying since non-christians aren’t agreeing with me.” That’s pretty typical for poor ol’ Michael. He is such a good Christian for showing us that he ignores his magic book whenever convenient.

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